Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread

[Matt1882]

You forgot

Bale out - nobody in
Vinicius out - nobody in

Reminder we came 7th last season, we needed more than minor upgrades on a few positions.

I’m convinced anyone saying this is a great window would of said it was a shit one had they been shown it in May, and had we not had such a great start to the season more would be calling out levy.

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We finished 5 points off 4th placed Chelsea with a better goal difference,
To put things in perspective, Newcastle and West Ham stole 4 points off us - the equalizers both came late on due to ref mistakes.
Then pick any one of half a dozen games we drew that we could have won but not for a brain fart and we'd have been back in the CL

Mason had NFI what he was doing but still managed to get 4 wins out of 6.
The biggest issue I feel our squad had, for quite some time, was fear. Whenever we got the chance to re-occupy the top4 (when it mattered, not in October) the team totally failed to show up in games.
Without any pressure or expectation, they often played well.

 

[TheSpurEst]

No he didn't.......

He beats his FIRST MAN. We defended as a unit, which means he has to beat the 2nd/3rd man, he didn't do this. He created fuck all as a result, I think he managed to find just two crosses that went to a player on his team, the first a pullback that was behind his teammate which meant it was backheeled and the resulting shot was from 25yrds out and went into row Z and 20yrs wide, the 2nd was a non-pacey ball kind of lobbed to the back post to a player that was marked by two of our defenders and we won the ball.

A player that rips a team to shreds is one that creates something specific, a shot, a big chance. Not a cross that hits the first man, a stray pass, a shot that goes out for a corner.

He's a freak, a monster of a player, very exciting to watch as he skins his first man. Everyone loves this, I love this! But he has to produce something at the end of it. Teams can prepare for him, every team knows what's coming, so you double up intelligently, have the first man be aggressive with him, maybe cause him to miss place/miss time or just put pressure on him so his cross, pass or attempt to dribble the 2nd man isn't under control.

I thought he was better against Utd, who didn't defend anywhere near as good as us against them.

But even here there is very little end product, with the exception of his ball to Trincoa(??) who fucked his shot.

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Thank you, kind sir!!!
Summed up my thoughts better than I could.

If we look at our game against Wolves, he created one superb chance. It was around 26th minute mark where he passed it to Jimenez in the box, if I am not mistaken.
Everything before and after that was just flashy stuff that did not result in anything dangerous.

So all in all, Traore created 1 big chance during the game and Bergwijn did exactly the same thing when he set up Kane just brilliantly. Why in the world should we have paid 40-50 mil for player that does not improve on the player we already have?!?

Not signing Traore was close to the level of getting rid of Sissoko.

In 3 years time, let's see who is better player - either talented and technical Gil or one-dimensional and speed-reliant Traore.
I suspect that all track-and-field-fans will be very quiet and very few will admit their mistake.

 

[ArcspacE]

But we have had a good start to the season which implies we're doing something right.

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LOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOL

 

[Sir Archibald Crooks]

We've done well shifting a few but have a look at who will have only 2 years left on their contracts next summer and we've barely scratched the surface. This lot will either have to be sold or given a new contract in the next 12 months. Kane, Moura, Sanchez, Davies, Doherty, Skipp, Alli, Winks and Dier.

 

[GOAT]

Emerson is a loan with an obligation to buy, Tomiyasu's club demanded large part of the fee upfront

It has fuckall to do with quality, it was about the payment structure.

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No he isn’t

 

[ArcspacE]

No he isn’t

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FIGHT!

 

[Matt1882]

I agree somewhat however it isn't much different to last season.

Jose had us on top of the table. We started off as One of the fittest teams in the league. Players were motivated. One or two injuries later and we were fumbling.

Dele was lazy (even by his own admission). Dier lost confidence, Sanchez..... (You know the story). Harry openly said the team lacks Leaders.

Now we bought Gil, Emerson, Romano, Gollini and Sarr. They all are young. Not one is a Leader. They could be in a few seasons but right now they need leadership.

Spurs is in a downward Spiral. Anyone who believes differently is delusional and should just look at our fellow team down the road. Big Stadium after reasonable success, now bottom of the table. You need young talent but you also need some experience to steady the ship. Levy just looks at purchase price and future predicted value. There are a few 'Oldies' around that could steady the ship but that doesn't make business sense. We let Alderweireld go, imagine what he would have been able to do with a faster Ramano by his side.

We just have to face facts. Enjoy the football we see. Remember we are an investment so financial growth comes first. Football comes second.

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Woolwich's biggest problem is keeping faith with a coach who doesn't know what he's doing.
Long may it continue. The Premier league is littered with examples of teams who stick with their coach, because that's what the pundits and cliches say. But many of them wouldn't have bee relegated if they did the brave thing and changed it.
West Ham went down twice, Newcastle and I suspect Villa, all because they gave useless wet idiots too much time.

 

[zin]

No it’s not a loan. We are already at 2 loans which is the max allowed.

It’s almost like you need something to bitch about so you just make something up or believe the first complaint you read on Twitter.

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There's no loan max for players from abroad

 

[Nuts]

Spurs is in a downward Spiral.

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Well, was. Right this minute it looks like the brake's on. And let's be honest, thanks to covid last season was weird in every way.

A lot of it is alchemy. It's all a bit of an experiment and you hope to strike it lucky. Sometimes all it takes is a few fresh faces, a new manager and it all starts to take shape. We've got those things and a great start to the season, so keep your fingers crossed.

 

[TheSpurEst]

But how good/bad was the window?
I would give it 6,5 or 7 out of 10.
Not more than that by any means.

Few things that left unsorted and bug me quite a lot -
- we did not get in a striker; Kane specifically said, that he wont be leaving THIS SUMMER. He will go in next one, I don't think there is much doubt. So we should have got someone new in. So we would have chance to try out his level when we still have Kane left. It did not have to be Martinez or even Vlahovic. Even Edouard or Ings would have been okay.
- we did not sort out the creative CM position ; Ndombele has been frozen out throughout preseason and first games as well. The trio we have started in EPL so far is not creative enough. I hoped we could have some kind of loan swap regarding him, but now we have 0 players who can find accurate long balls fast enough
- we did not increase quality of CB roaster enough ; I hope Romero turns out a leader of defense, but across 2 previous seasons Dier and Sanchez have shown that they are error-prone and make mistakes just defending one-on-one. Sure, system can decrease instances where one-on-one defending is needed but it cant eliminate it.

And one that I am not sure about - I currently feel weird about this RB/CB situation.
I am not even slightly convinced about Emerson. And I cant wrap my head around, why did we pay 10 mil more for him than we could have paid for Tomyasu who could play CB and RB?!? And now he joined Scum. If he plays well for them, it will make my shit boil. Ofc if Emerson plays like young god and Tomyasu will flop, then I will be really happy with the way we went. So time will tell about that one.

 

[Matt1882]

There's no loan max for players from abroad

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From the Premier League website


- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

Thank you, kind sir!!!
Summed up my thoughts better than I could.

If we look at our game against Wolves, he created one superb chance. It was around 26th minute mark where he passed it to Jimenez in the box, if I am not mistaken.
Everything before and after that was just flashy stuff that did not result in anything dangerous.

So all in all, Traore created 1 big chance during the game and Bergwijn did exactly the same thing when he set up Kane just brilliantly. Why in the world should we have paid 40-50 mil for player that does not improve on the player we already have?!?

Not signing Traore was close to the level of getting rid of Sissoko.

In 3 years time, let's see who is better player - either talented and technical Gil or one-dimensional and speed-reliant Traore.
I suspect that all track-and-field-fans will be very quiet and very few will admit their mistake.

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There are loads of positive things he brings to Wolves and if teams don't collectively defend against him them there are spaces that open up. The best two examples I can show are actually in their two most recent games against us and Utd at the weekend. I don't think Utd defended well against him all game, they opted to go man for man on him, looked liked Fred was tasked with this. The ultimate difference between the two games is Traore was allowed to get central and then dribble direct with runners on either side, this stretched Utd and created space, in this game, it was the end product of his teammates that was really poor, they should have won that game 4-0.

We limited him to coming inside, think this happened only a couple of times and when he did we didn't allow him the space to dribble into so he was forced to play the ball out wide.

Whoever the oppo is going to be the first man is going to get rinsed, this will have the commentators licking their lips, have the pundits magnifying the inability of this first man to stop him and god forbid if that player is the clubs lightning rod for criticism (say a Fred, Aurier, Sissoko for example), providing fans of that club to calling out said player as shite and get rid. Happens every single game.

Just as there should be a collective team shape to defend against him, whoever he plays for should build their attack around him more, so have a teammate following him, not to receive a pass but to perhaps pick up the 2nd ball in the chaos. Sometimes chaos is good but only if it too has a structure. Liverpool at their best under Klopp relied on manufacturing the chaos in their counter-pressing for example.

 

[Tottenham Sean]

My thoughts
First the pros,
Every signing we have made was needed and seems to potentially be an upgrade. Shame the one loaned back wasn't ready for this year. I genuinely think he is the real deal.
Negatives
No matter how they dress it up the fact we still don't have another striker is not good.
Overall thought,same as yesterday
Could be better.

 

[Matt1882]

My thoughts
First the pros,
Every signing we have made was needed and seems to potentially be an upgrade. Shame the one loaned back wasn't ready for this year. I genuinely think he is the real deal.
Negatives
No matter how they dress it up the fact we still don't have another striker is not good.
Overall thought,same as yesterday
Could be better.

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I'd add that we still have a noticeable inability to control possession at times. Our current players are too easily tackled and too easily misplace passes. Often easy ones.

 

[zin]

From the Premier League website


- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club.

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Great job missing the paragraph immediately after that

With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.

 

[Matt1882]

Great job missing the paragraph immediately after that

With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.

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I did!
Lol

Is that saying then that Swansea or Cardiff have a max number of loanees but every other PL team doesn't?

 

[Pathfinder]

Although I am content with the transfer window and I am not totally happy - but it's the first transfer window for Nuno & Paratici to work with Levy & Lewis.
For some reason, I feel a bit upset that Spurs missed out on Tomiyasu - particularly when Woolwich got him. He is very versatile (can play RB, LB, RCB, LCB, DM) and would bring with him that Japanese work ethic. Also, I feel that he would do better at Spurs than at Woolwich...
I would have been ready to "sacrifice" Clarke, Moura and Bergwijin for Adama Traore . Spurs could have offered £40m for him (ok, it's said that Wolves wanted $50m but that may just be rumours) and/or included players like Doherty, Clarke, Moura in an eventual deal (which Wolves may have refused though). His pace could have wrecked havoc against teams that (most probably) could dominate Spurs.
Yes, a creative MF schemer would have been top but there are few of those and they are expensive so, hopefully, Lo Celso and Ndombele can do the job (not that I expect it).
But Spurs moved out 11 players (Gazzaniga, Hart, Aurier, CCV, Eyoma, Toby, Foyth, Rose, Cirkin, Sissoko, Lamela), which reduced the salary budget considerably.
I feel "good" about all the 5 players.
And with Kane staying, Son signing a contract extension and Dele, Sanchez and Dier are apparently "re-born" as players (I know that it's too early to say that after just 3 games but the signs seem to be there).
Remember, it's a rebuilding project Nuno & Paratici have undertaken now, so it will need some time.

 

[Skippa18]

I think the INs are all good business. Would have been better to get in a couple more. Specifically another striker and wide forward (don't think we did as we didn't get the funds from Kane sale)

Really good to get some of players out who didn't want to be here or not contributing.

Would have liked to see Ndombele go too if we could've replaced him. It's up to himself now and Nuno to get a tune out of him. Maybe with his mates out the door he my buck his ideas up

Looking forward to seeing the new boys make their mark.

Also we gonna need Dele and Lo celso to start chipping in with goals. Lo celso scored 16 i think in his last season at Betis he has it in his locker.

I think we're going to have a decent season we still have some very good players only a few are at the highest level but as a team and clear tactical plan/instruction we should do well

I recon there will be attacking reinforcements in January window too.

Now lets go. Season truly starts now and we top of the league COYS!

 

[Cozy Parker]

Ok troops, the situation is that we lack a proper back up striker; Winks & Ndomblele both remain also.

The defence has improved.

Enjoy the international break with us top of the PL.

Lets hope Nuno can work with Ndombele over the break and get his finger out his arse, there is a good player in him, I think we all know that.

Winks is okay in the ECL for now, and a bench barnacle.

Lets hope Nuno plays Scarlett in every ECL match, be it from the bench or starting XI.

Maybe we get another forward player in the January window.

I expect us to be on max points still after the Palace match.

COYS.

 

[Herclueless]

Ok troops, the situation is that we lack a proper back up striker; Winks & Ndomblele both remain also.

The defence has improved.

Enjoy the international break with us top of the PL.

Lets hope Nuno can work with Ndombele over the break and get his finger out his arse, there is a good player in him, I think we all know that.

Winks is okay in the ECL for now, and a bench barnacle.

Lets hope Nuno plays Scarlett in every ECL match, be it from the bench or starting XI.

Maybe we get another forward player in the January window.

I expect is to be on max points still after the Palace match.

COYS.

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Kid needs to get his first goal sooner rather than later so that it doesn't become a burden on him, so whilst I agree that he needs to be playing in those games, he also needs to be supported by a competent and coherent unit behind him.

Slogging through a bunch of 90 minutes like the Pacos away leg will do him no good whatsoever.