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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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Let’s just say you are a very emotional poster. But I enjoy your posting for the most part and I find you are often balanced (unlike much of this board), so no offense meant.
How many are unwilling to leave? Not many clubs have come in with bids.
Rubbish.
Dier is no more of a roadblock to signing a CB than Tanganga is. Your rhetoric on this matter is a mess.
Fair enough. Didn't intend that to come off as emotional tbh.
No strawman. You've been putting x'es on all my posts on this so can only assume you disagree with me about buying a striker.
This is my opinion and I'm not gonna reply again: We sold our only specialist striker in Kane. We have a few players capable of playing CF, but they are not specialists (and implied in that, not good enough). Not attempting to buy a specialist CF is a bad idea. It's pretty straight forward.
I'm not sure what your point is......
FWIW, as I already said; if we're at the point of Dier having difinitively dug his heels in then I'd just pay him off.........
Rodon > Leeds (done)
Dier > Terminated
Tanganga > Luton
That's the 3 CBs out (irrespective of who) that most anticipated.
No... The Xs are for any post you insist that we don't have a ST; cos that's factually not true.
Just so we're clear... The latest X is for this comment for the same reason.
You said it doesn't matter if Dier gets terminated on the last day of the window.
I'm saying that would then make it too late to bring in the 3rd CB.
Hard for me to know what you mean without actually saying it, but thanks for clearing up. I don't agree with either of your opinions.No... The Xs are for any post you insist that we don't have a ST; cos that's factually not true.
Just so we're clear... The latest X is for this comment for the same reason.
Of cousre they're related, but - as per Ange's comments that you and I quoted to each other a couple of days ago - the ins and outs aren't explicitly conjoined..... Exits being a primary focus doesn't mean that incomings can't and won't be worked on in the interim.
i.e. Just one of a few potential scenarios......
If there's a CB 'on ice' and Japh gets his move to Luton there's nothing to say we won't pull the trigger on the purchase knowing we have the option to release Dier a day or two later.
We did that EXACT thing with Porro/Doherty...... Yes a loan was plan A; but we proved a release with a low cost implication can be used as a tool at the 11th hour to get us where we wanted to be.
I like the player but surely he has to want to come here if we agree a fee Etc
Or at least we can convince him he’ll get plenty of game time if that’s his concern
View: https://x.com/thespursexpress/status/1693608666857881756?s=46&t=LZlJuZ1uaIN4QMovCQVkvQ
Or at least we can convince him he’ll get plenty of game time if that’s his concern
View: https://x.com/thespursexpress/status/1693608666857881756?s=46&t=LZlJuZ1uaIN4QMovCQVkvQ
That isn’t the case.
It’s been reported all summer that Dier has turned down viable exit options because he wants to stay ‘and fight for his place’.
He laid out his hand in June. The ‘problem’ has been forum members accepting this as reality.
Nah force him.
It'sall bo!!ocks.
Can he play up front because that's the bloody area if greatest need.
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There is clearly a divide amongst the board about the striker situation.
Side 1: Stick with richy and son as striker options and upgrade on the wing if possible. A big part of this thinking is that the striker options on the market are not great and would be a small upgrade and pricey.
Side 2: Buy a striker to replace Kane and try to get more goals from this position.
Side 3: Buy lukaku.
While I am for the 1st option, I can understand option 2. I just don’t think there’s a clear improvement that is available and even though richy’s overall game is lacking, his strengths (pressing, box presence) are built well for this team. We might get a better goalscorer but if they are poor at pressing, then will it actually help us?
Because taking a guy that scores 20 goals per season on a different team and replacing a guy that scores 10, doesn’t necessarily mean you add 10 goals to the team. That 20 goal scorer could be taking chances away from others or not providing some other valuable qualities.
Option 3 is just a laugh. Look at the aging strikers that have been signed lately. Ronaldo, lukaku, Auba (shit for Woolwich and Barca and STILL signed by Chelsea), weghorst. All of them were probably net negative.
Very strange comment..... I've explained every possible aspect of my point within my posts in the most basic of terms.
That's more than ok... Afterall facts > feelings.
We have to see how it plays out. Maybe Japh goes Luton now and that opens a spot but Dier and Dav are the bigger contracts. It would seem more obvious that one of those needs to go in order to open a squad place.
The Porro/Doherty thing was a mess IIRC. They wanted to loan Doherty then realized they'd don eth max so had to release him. Not sure they should be working on replicating fuck ups as viable options.
I too recall the June synopsis, but there's been further water under the bridge since then and it seems it's been communicated (in various forms) that there's no "place" for him to "fight" for.
It now seems to be more of a case of "it doesn't matter what you say or do; I'm staying".
Which of course is his right; but it's still a bit lame.
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I guess Tanganga didn't see that coming...They opted for Pavard over Tanganga?!
