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Really not sold on Jonathan David….


Orban is the guy.

Also we still need a CB! There was a few rumours Liverpool were looking at Schuurs…

So Schuurs is going to Chelsea then?


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8 in 23 in his first season, 18 in 27 in his second season. Decent return but "loads" is overselling it a bit.

Bare in mind, he was there between the ages of 18 and 20.

First season there he started 23 games and got 14 goals and 5 assists.

Second season he started 37 games, scored 23 and got 10 asissts.

I don't think that's pretty bad at all. Had a hand in 52 goals in 60 games as basically a teenager...

Moved to Ligue 1 as a 20 year old and got 13 goals and 5 assists in 36 starts and gotten progressively better every year... 19 goals the next year, 26 goals and 4 assists the following year..
 
Bare in mind, he was there between the ages of 18 and 20.

First season there he started 23 games and got 14 goals and 5 assists.

Second season he started 37 games, scored 23 and got 10 asissts.

I don't think that's pretty bad at all. Had a hand in 52 goals in 60 games as basically a teenager...

Moved to Ligue 1 as a 20 year old and got 13 goals and 5 assists in 36 starts and gotten progressively better every year... 19 goals the next year, 26 goals and 4 assists the following year..
Now check how many of those are pens.
 
What if that just means he's not great at either?

We've literally already got that scenario with Rich.

We need to be precise with our intent whatever position we're shooting for..... Same reason, I don't think Eze makes sense right now. 60-70m for back-up to Maddison & make-shift RWer isn't smart at all..... Maybe next summer our need for depth at AM is more prevalent and changes that.
 
What if that just means he's not great at either?

Looks like he's definitely more of a pure goalscorer than a wide forward.

This is a guy who at 23 has started 177 games in his club career and had a hand in 119 goals across two different leagues.

A goal every 1.4 games he's involved in.

I haven't seen David exclusively. I don't watch much, if any Lille. But his stats dont look bad at all.

Interestingly, comparing data an it seems that him and Orban are nearly identical. With Orban being more deadly at finishing and David being a much better creator
 
I don't think he's quicker now.
Yes he is. Richy is a plodder. Sonny is sharper over shorter distances too. I think we think sonny is slow now but he’s still quick. He’s just not the way he was a couple of years ago. You saw that on Saturday when he opened up and gave Varane 5 yards of a start and he was terrified getting in a race with him. Richy wouldn’t run away from him like that.
 
Yes he is. Richy is a plodder. Sonny is sharper over shorter distances too. I think we think sonny is slow now but he’s still quick. He’s just not the way he was a couple of years ago. You saw that on Saturday when he opened up and gave Varane 5 yards of a start and he was terrified getting in a race with him. Richy wouldn’t run away from him like that.
I don't think I've seen him beat a man for pace in like a year now. Richy is not a plodder, he's been a PL quality winger for years.
 
I think most people were working on the assumption when we signed Richarlison that we were signing a squad player to back up Kane and Son for injuries or fixture congestion.
I knew he was the long term Kane replacement and tried to warn people at the time.

The issue is he just isn't very good. 10-15 goals max a season and a bit of a petulant twat to boot.

I'd rather play Son through the middle tbh
 
18 of his 121 goals throughout his career have been penalties. That's 1 of roughly every 6.

For comparison, 68 of Kane's 366 goals have been penalties. That's roughly 1 of every 5.

Someone's got to take them. Again, I've not seen David play exclusively. Like I have never seen Orban.
I thought we were talking about his goals for Lille, why are you suddenly pulling out career goals stats? He scored 10 penalty goals in the league last season, so 14 non-penalty goals, in Ligue 1.

Do you know how many non-penalty goals he had a season before that? 13. Not quite a massive improvement is it.
 
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