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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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Billy Hunt said:
Can you list the trophies Chelsea have won with Caicedo and Fernandez? Anyway, the post wasn't comparing trophies, it was comparing players and their relative costs.

(Admittedly, Fernandez did make an assist against West Ham last February, so it's not all bad for the racist scum)
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You might want to raise Chelsea being 'hammered' 3-1 despite their obscenely expensive signings.

Refocussing on Spurs, I was expecting a hard time against Brentford (a tough counterattacking side who slaughtered Woolwich who fielded new defenders 2 or 3 seasons ago) as we had a new GK, Vicario, a new CB Van de Ven and a debut for RB Udogie ...... so was actually quite pleased with a draw.

A similar team against ManU and seeing the new boys Vicario, Van de Ven, Udogie and Maddison all having good games, showing they are bedding in nicely, and a 2-0 win made me appreciate the transfer work done already this season. We seem to have rebuilt much of the team in last couple of years whilst not spending outrageously but generally well and are putting together a cohesive squad ...... still more to do but we've got a base in place now
 
Airfixx said:
Rich has played more games at CF in his career (115) that in any other position.

It's not Son's primary position; but regardless he's proved himself VERY capable of playing CF.... 108 games in his career including some big game and performances for us. Ange himself has already said he's a perfectly plausible option at CF.
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Played his best football from LWF at Watford imv and has approx the same amount of games in that position. Anyway, we don't need a plausible option, but someone with a proven goal scoring record. Richarlison is fine as cover for the front three.
 
Spursidol said:
You might want to raise Chelsea being 'hammered' 3-1 despite their obscenely expensive signings.

Refocussing on Spurs, I was expecting a hard time against Brentford (a tough counterattacking side who slaughtered Woolwich who fielded new defenders 2 or 3 seasons ago) as we had a new GK, Vicario, a new CB Van de Ven and a debut for RB Udogie ...... so was actually quite pleased with a draw.

A similar team against ManU and seeing the new boys Vicario, Van de Ven, Udogie and Maddison all having good games, showing they are bedding in nicely, and a 2-0 win made me appreciate the transfer work done already this season. We seem to have rebuilt much of the team in last couple of years whilst not spending outrageously but generally well and are putting together a cohesive squad ...... still more to do but we've got a base in place now
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Excellent post.
 
I have to say I'm a little frustrated with Dier and Hugo. After all these years you'd think they'd try and help the club out a little by being more open to transfers. Especially Dier - he hasn't been decent in what, 3 or 4 years?
 
CarrieFi said:

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This would seem like an ideal move for him.
Stays in London and gets 3 (or more) years on a PL salary (although probably reduced).
He clearly doesn’t want it. He grew up in Portugal and is comfortable living in continental Europe.
Ange has frozen him out but needs to tell him that he won’t make a single squad — not even as sub in League Cup game.
Hopefully, this news, with more authority than the posters here who have been saying much the same thing, will shut up those who say ‘why aren’t we selling Dier?’
 
Spursidol said:
£60m on a squad player ?

If you thought that ........ I've no idea what's in your head, but its not reality.
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If you read what I said, I didn't buy it.

But do you think he's good enough to replace Kane?
Because that's the wider issue here, we've basically gone from a 25 goal a season striker to a 10-15 goal striker.

Which is I suppose why some people are saying we need to sign another forward.
 
AlabamaSpur said:
I have to say I'm a little frustrated with Dier and Hugo. After all these years you'd think they'd try and help the club out a little by being more open to transfers. Especially Dier - he hasn't been decent in what, 3 or 4 years?
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I think they're suffering from a gap between their perceived and actual talents.

Hugo turning down a move to Lazio because he wouldn't be the guaranteed starter demonstrates that.

Dier probably feels like Fulham is below him (our own fault really as we've spoiled him in recent years with CL appearances, etc).
 
Richard Arlison said:
Depends on the goals.

Orban strikes the ball well enough for any league in the world.
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That's true.

But he could also be getting more space than in any league in the world.

The Belgian league is hardly a great league is it. I just find it interesting that the leagues reputation seems to have gone up a level since we've been linked with him.

And this is coming from someone who wants us to sign him. The unknown excites me.

He could be the next big thing. He could also be a colossal flop. I want us to find out.
 
Thing with Dier and Lloris is how has been allowed to go on this long?

Could have paid both Contracts out weeks ago and moved on with the rebuild.

Tanganga, Regui, Tanguy i get it, we need to see what we can get. Spence as well.
 
Norwegian Jim said:
Played his best football from LWF at Watford imv and has approx the same amount of games in that position. Anyway, we don't need a plausible option, but someone with a proven goal scoring record. Richarlison is fine as cover for the front three.
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Well now your conflating my comments re: two different players.

Son DOES have a proven goal-scoring record at CF.
Rich IS a legit CF even if you think he's a better LW.

That YOU personally think one or the other isn't sufficiently good enough is an entirely different discussion.

To say a team that has a pecking order of:

Rich
Son
+Veliz & Scarlet

Don't have a legit ST is a very skewed claim.
 
NotThatTedHughes said:
This would seem like an ideal move for him.
Stays in London and gets 3 (or more) years on a PL salary (although probably reduced).
He clearly doesn’t want it. He grew up in Portugal and is comfortable living in continental Europe.
Ange has frozen him out but needs to tell him that he won’t make a single squad — not even as sub in League Cup game.
Hopefully, this news, with more authority than the posters here who have been saying much the same thing, will shut up those who say ‘why aren’t we selling Dier?’
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As much as Winks gets stick, he was willing to be sold to Leicester and make the step down to the Championship (albeit very likely to get promoted) and was willing to go out on loan before that.

Dier seems more stubborn.
 
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