Bargain. Will have to sell a few more F1 kart tickets though.
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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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Rice: A very good player who went onto be one of the best in his position in the league...
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Romero
Udogie
Van der Ven
Porro
Maddison
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I agree, the above are excellent players but most have still got a lot to learn & improve on, but I’ve no doubt that will happen. Players like Richarlison, Johnson, Kulusevski, Werner, Solomon, Bissouma are in my opinion, the 2nd & 3rd rate tier players that I was referring to & we will need far better quality than them to make up the gap on the top 3. The point I was making was that whenever a top player is available, we show no ambition in trying to sign them. Hopefully, that may change this summer but I won’t hold my breath
As does Rice though
All of our signings aren't going to be top tier signings though, that's unrealistic.
The club you mentioned bought Rice but how many of their other signings were top tier?
You’re missing my point. None of our signings were established, top tier players when we signed them.
The fact that some have turned out to be very good players is great news for us.
I would say the last established, top player that we signed was Klinsmann & that was before Levy’s time. We have not come close to making a signing of that magnitude since
Ndomble was near the top tier when we signed him, comparable to Rice.
Rebrov was after klinsmann.
Most of us had never heard of Ndombele before we were linked with him., he was hardly top tier. Rebrov was a decent player who did well in Ukraine, he was hardly on the same level as Klinsmann. Even if you do consider Rebrov to be on the same level, it was before Levy’s time
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Agree
But we aren't going to pay the wages that Leao, Kvratskelia, Osimhen etc want.
Doesn't matter if we think we should, we won't.
Which is why I asked you your definition of established top tier players because Rice wasn't an established top tier player either going by definition, he'd never played CL football before Woolwich signed him, never got close to POTY shouts and the highest position he'd finished in with his club was 6th so I have no idea what seperates him to someone like Romero or Maddison?
If you really don’t think Rice was a top tier player when Woolwich signed him, you’re just deluding yourself.
Piatek did nothing like what Zirkzee can do in the build up.
I do agree Zirkzee is a way off Kane's level for now, especially as a finisher but just making the point he has that type of ceiling.
I have like De Ketelaere playing CF when i've seen it. Used to play 10 so has the ability to be that type fo CF that can dictate games in the buildup as well.
What made him a 'top tier player' and why was he different to the likes of Romero or Maddison, seeing as you're the one making the distinction, tell me what the difference was?
There is no point.
Such a stupid debate.
We all know the type of players we can't afford with our wage and transfer budget.
The richest club in London and one of the richest in the world should be able to target any player in the world.
You mean that the only differential of top tier players compared to 2nd or 3rd tier is price and nothing else?
If Woolwich paid £50m for Rice would you be saying the same thing?
If we paid £80m for Maddison would you be saying the same thing?
Most of us were not watching champions League football? If you were it's unlikely you missed ndomble. Because he turned out shit shouldn't change that it was a real show of ambition
Rebrov wasn't on klinsmann level, few were but was above the likes of Rice for what he did in the European cup. Brought him up as a more recent example than klinsmann not in relation
That's not true. A large % of people here were fapping over him at Lyon and we saw off Barcelona to get him. £60m was still big money at the time for anyone not called PSG.
Maddison is a top player..... I suspect he doesn't count tho' cos we managed to get him for a good price.
Spending 45m on a RB (Porro) is no joke either..... 5th most expensive of all time (discounting White as he was bought as a CB).
Dismissing those players from your complaints on the basis that they can improve even further is pretty off-key..... It's not a bad thing, you know.
What happened to 'if you're good enough, age is just a number'?
The fact is once you hit the field of play; all the superficial nonsense like so-called marquee status, price-tag and age melt away. We need more good players; that's the long and the short of it... The rest is just fluff.
The thing here is that you bemoan us not being in the mix for big name superstars (alongside significantly richer and higher profile clubs) since we signed JK in the early 90s on the basis that we're now (only just!) generating more revenue that any other club in London; but for probably 28 of those 30 odd years that revenue stat was not the case.
If you think at any time during that period that the bonafide superstars of the time would turn down RM, Barca, Bayern, Man U (replace them with City for current purposes) etc. to sign for us you're crazy..... Even now....... The name value and reputation of these clubs still pisses all over us.
Re: Rice - Starting the season with Bissouma, Bentancur & Sarr there as simply no need for us to enter the market for a 100m CM.... We had other business to attend to. Besides; he was no more the finished article than Romero (eg) was when we bought him.... Rice is in the proces of proving whether that fee was justified as we speak. He wasn't already proven to be a 100m player when the scum signed him.
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The richest club in London who happened to spend the most money in the Jan transfer window.
Tells you that all that over spending on players and wages isn't sustainable.
Which is exactly the point I was making in my original post. The fact that there as some on here that don’t agree is just bizarre.
When you break it down, football is quite simple, the best teams have the best players.
There can be no more excuses, if we don’t start signing the same quality of players as the top clubs & pay the wages that will entail, it’s because Levy hasn’t got the desire to do it, not because we can’t afford it
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That's that then, all the top level players will just stay at their clubs because nobody can afford to spend.