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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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They are but we also know that Eddie Howe was fuming about having to sell off Anderson and Minteh because of bad planning with FFP. They really struggled to strengthen this summer because they tried to improve to much too soon and now have a hard ceiling above their heads.
Stavely looks like she did good things for Newcastle and they apparently love her up there but where is the evidence that she knows how to take us to the next level? Remember it's not her money that gets invested.
If clubs didn't replace existing squad players with youngsters how would youngsters ever get in the squad?
Well, we are experts at both doing that and not following through on these bloody projects. Conveniently by doing that it actually means we never have to buy top class players in their prime and pay the kind of wages they demand.
Or someone that actually wants do the bare minimum. We had ffp wiggle room of £300 million this summer. Any owner that wants to actually win the league spends that, or near to it, that’s prudent. We will never do that under the current owners because they don’t want to fund us themselves. Ie. They don’t really want to do enough to win because they don’t want to spend their own money. It’s why our approach is doomed to failure.
She's more like a broker than an owner I suppose, but if we want to be winners we need different owners.
Anyway this is the wrong thread to be discussing the topic.
There's always loopholes to be found!
And these clubs can afford to hire lawyers without any morals to find those loopholes!
Chelski started this movement and opened the wormhole. And destroyed the sport we all fell in love with. Nowadays it's ALL about money!
Last minute job lot sale to Boehly’s Saudi business partners for 3 x their worth.
Not really. They were mainly introduced properly in 1995/96 by which time they'd already won 2 league titles including a double. As mentioned before Scholes, Beckham, Gary Neville and Nicky Butt were mostly 20 when they broke through, Giggs was the only one playing regulaly at 18. As good as i hope our youngsters become i think its a stretch to say we have another Giggs, Scholes and Beckham. Thats a 1 off that hasnt been seen any other time in England over 40 years. As also stated that side also had 3 of the best players in prem history, Schmeical, Keane and Cantona. Utd also spent big when they needed to with Ferdinand, Rooney etc.
I think buying youngsters is good but they should be a bonus as and when they break through not expectation thrust on them straight away because we've done nothing else. You need first team signings for the now and other than Solanke we havent done it. I dont believe there is a single fan that if you said back in May our signings would be Werner, Gray, Solanke and Odobert that would have been happy.
The manager has literally said the youngsters have been signed to make an impact in the short term - he has literally said he has final say on transfers - he got rid of players he didn't rate and brought in players that he does in their place. The expectation that these players come in and do a job has been set by him.
Oh 1000% mate. Levy completely bottled it when it came to follow through on the Poch project. Jury is not just out on him for that, it's gone home and already put their feet up by the fire. When the time comes to take this project over the hump, Levy has some serious work to do if he wants to make that up with the fans.
Again, I'd say he has a manager who has a project slightly ahead of schedule like with Poch getting Top 4 before the move to the stadium. No excuses this time though. if next summer is the time to smash the wage bracket for that star player, he'd better be prepared to do it.
Scholar left us in a financial mess after winning the cup in 1991. Sugar gets a bad rap, but to be fair to him he inherited a financial shit show, which he managed to sort out and win a league cup and see us into a couple of other cup semis.
Sugar also stepped aside to let Enic in when he realised he couldn’t take us any further or didn’t want to invest further.
Now Enic have improved the club in every way bar one - trophies, they haven’t yet eclipsed Sugar or Scholar on that front. It’s their biggest failing, we should have had a couple more cups in this period and the biggest reason we do t is because of how much we love to shoot ourselves in the foot
But none of them had Premier League experience elsewhere before being brought through and tbh Gray and Bergvall are much more like them as 20 year old's physically and in terms of playing experience.
We can't recreate the 2 titles they were a part of before really taking the rotation so it wouldn't matter who we signed for that tbh.
Yep. He won’t though.
Oh well, let’s just hope we get that left sided defensive cover in before the weekend. Looks like fuck all else will happen, if that.
I'm sure he has. Given the squad now they pretty much have to be involved straight away. That doesnt mean at 18/19 that they will make an impact and they will make mistakes as they learn.
I try not to go in the correct thread to discuss it mate. Nothing to gain from going in there.
The fact he is playing then tells us all we need to know. He started Odobert as soon as he could, Bergvall and Gray are coming off the bench.
Werner is short term cover until Moore is ready - hopefully Moore gets chances this season.
Would I have been excited back in May, no probably not, but I have seen these lads now, you can see how good they are and how good they could become.
View: https://x.com/HotspurLane/status/1828680505585217983
They had really better be and that Coulibaly link was hardly encouraging. Not complaining about the window overall. Tbh It's been better than I was expecting after the Werner loan came first but it's dangerous game not signing cover for that left side of defence and we are the type of club who always gets unlucky everytime we play that game.
Not disagreing with that. Although Son hasn't got long and is already quite a patchy player.Our team full of kids that also has:
Son Heung Min - Recognized as possibly the best finisher in the game.
James Maddison - Up there with the best AM's in the Prem.
Christian Romero - World Cup winner and recognized as one of the best CBs in the world.
Micky Van De Ven - The fastest CB in the world and starting to get calls to be considered amongst the best CBs in the premier league.
Then we have guys like Bissouma who is inconsistent but on his day is up there with the best #6's in the premier league and Pedro Porro who was up there with the most creative attacking defenders in Europe's top 5 leagues last season and already scored another goal this season so only likely to improve.
Just readRichard Splash response as well and realized I'd forgotten to include Solanke, one of the best #9's in the Prem last season and finally delivering on his ceiling as one of the most promising young forwards in the game when he came through the Chelsea academy.
Really it's only Romero and Son that can say they're at the top of their game though. There's "older" players sure, but players like Vicario, Solanke, Bissouma, etc aren't all players who have a lot of experience against Europe's best teams. Solanke has 5 Uefa Cup games and no senior international caps for example. When United were blooding the kids they proper leaders and players experienced at the highest level. I don't feel like we have that.
