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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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  • Between 2013 and 2021 the average age of players we bought in was 23.2 years old.
  • In 2022 it was, coincidentally, also 23.2 years
  • In 2023 is was 20.8 (Vuskovic, Johnson, Maddison, Van de Ven, Veliz, Phillips)
  • In 2024 so far it's 20.5 (Solanke, Gray, Odobert, Bergvall, Yang, Dragusin)
Looks like a switch in strategy to me.

Source: transfermarkt and a spreadsheet. I have excluded goalkeepers because they tend to be old. Can't be bothered going back further than 2013 to the early ENIC days.
Is this everyone or just first team players?

For example in Conte’s tenure, it was pretty clear he had zero use for the youngest players brought in ( Sarr, Gil, Spence) although he did like Sessegnon a lot. Kulusevski also lowered his average age but I’d argue he was far more established than others.
 
Is this everyone or just first team players?

For example in Conte’s tenure, it was pretty clear he had zero use for the youngest players brought in ( Sarr, Gil, Spence) although he did like Sessegnon a lot. Kulusevski also lowered his average age but I’d argue he was far more established than others.
It's all the ones that we paid more than 2M Euros for
 
Didn’t we already know this?! Exploring his options on a move was the reason given for Sergio not going on the pre-season tour wasn’t it?
:deledoubt:

Been rumours of several clubs, and IMO Romano is saying nothing new in his post, other than he is repeating discussions are still currently ongoing for his exit

Romano is often making (informed) guesses rather than having news and imo this is what is probably happening here
 
Been rumours of several clubs, and IMO Romano is saying nothing new in his post, other than he is repeating discussions are still currently ongoing for his exit

Romano is often making (informed) guesses rather than having news and imo this is what is probably happening here
Romano have very good contacts with agents tbf

Ornstein has tremendous relationships with clubs

Once you realise this, you get how and why each of them operates in the manner they do.
 
Do you think Man City have a decent team? They don't buy scraps from Barca, Real or Bayern. Some of their legends are David Silva, Bernardo Silva and De Bruyne brought in from Valencia, Monaco and Wolfsburg. The one time they went for the big name, Haaland, is was just little Dortmund. Where's City's fucking ambition?
Sure, cherry pick Man City's recent history and ignore that they went full galacticos from 2008 and won multiple titles prior to Pep. Their historical spending layed the foundational squad to gradually spend more speculatively on players that were still clearly very good.

Oh and anyone who watched Bundesliga at the time knew De Bruyne was easily the best midfielder in the league despite his "history" in the Prem. Ignoramuses like Paul Merson coloured that transfer differently.
 
For me, it all hinges on whether Ange can get a decent run of form together with the players we've got. The 4-0 against Everton is a good start but at the moment it's still not clear whether that is down to us or how bad Everton are. Newcastle is a much stronger test.

I'm not going to slate Johnson or Werner - they've got the season to show what they can do. There is more to be gained from getting behind the players at this stage rather than moaning that they're not good enough.

No transfer window can ever be properly assessed until we've seen what the players do on the pitch. At this stage, I'll assume that Ange is completely on board with the players we've brought in and that our recruitment team knew what they were doing when they signed the players. That's their job.
 
Romano have very good contacts with agents tbf

Ornstein has tremendous relationships with clubs

Once you realise this, you get how and why each of them operates in the manner they do.

Agree - I did put (informed) guesses because I'm not always sure he has actual information but is piecing together several bits of info and making an 'informed guess'

So he certainly has more info than the average fan and many journos but its not always complete info. And its sometimes not clear how complete his info is.
 
There was talk about us buying Jesus but I certainly am glad we did not buy him as he is not good enough.
Could it be that the fact that Citycare so good, they make individual players look better than they really are . Foden with England for a start.
Anyone else would be criticised for selling Cole Palmer for 45m when he could turn out to be the best player in the country. Pep gets away with it because he keeps winning, he needs to go and give everybody else a chance.
 
I'm in no way ITK but I worked as a consultant with a guy who's son played and used to hang with Kulusevski at Brommapojkarna. He said he had heard a name from his son. Arthur Theate. Guess is just bullshit, but seems like the right kind of prospekt, left back, 24 years old, Frankfurt.
 
Villa sold their CT player for 20m, bought him back for 16m in July and sold him for 17m in August

Chelsea bought a hotel, sold it to the club and spent a fortune

This sort of thing is rife in football, creating a situation where fans from every club are pushing their board to match the crazy sums of money paved by the Russian

Between the European and World governing bodies piling thousands of extra hours into the football calender and transfer fees spiraling out of orbit, what does the future look like in your opinion?

I wonder what the ratio of United States and the Middle East ownership in the English game is? 14 majority to make changes to absolutely anything. It's appears to be only a matter of time now before something incredibly insane happens

Newcastle United verses Tottenham Hotspur. Sunday, 1:30pm kick of,f coupled with FIFA's tri-continent world cup illustrates the thought that goes into the match going fan

We can argue the toss about how much money is or isn't spent but when you spent back, you should be asking yourself: what's the point?
 
I'm in no way ITK but I worked as a consultant with a guy who's son played and used to hang with Kulusevski at Brommapojkarna. He said he had heard a name from his son. Arthur Theate. Guess is just bullshit, but seems like the right kind of prospekt, left back, 24 years old, Frankfurt.
was bigging him up yesterday
 
They don't have to play 50+ games...
Even with deep cup runs we'll get to roughly 50 games.

And if you think Udogie and VDV will play in early stage cup games and majority of Europa League games then you are way off.

We still would need to improve STARTING XI before thinking about rotation options (which - as you pointed out, to some extent we have).
We will definitely play 48 games if we get knocked out in first games of the cups and don’t get to Europa knoclouts. More likely 55 plus.
 
Sure, cherry pick Man City's recent history and ignore that they went full galacticos from 2008 and won multiple titles prior to Pep. Their historical spending layed the foundational squad to gradually spend more speculatively on players that were still clearly very good.

Oh and anyone who watched Bundesliga at the time knew De Bruyne was easily the best midfielder in the league despite his "history" in the Prem. Ignoramuses like Paul Merson coloured that transfer differently.
The tribute films for Svennis show how incredibly active they were back then. Every clip seems to have 4 or 5 players you had forgotten. Like Stephen Ireland, the next big thing one minute, non-league the next.
 
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