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I was on TalkSport yesterday (do forgive me!) Talking about this and I said that we are a big club but not in the current era. In the PL era we simply can't think of ourselves as a big club by trophies certainly.

There are many variables which can be thrown into the equation about what makes a big club.

I did laugh at the next caller, a Liverpool fan, who said in response to me saying we were a big club yesteryear that he laughed at my suggestion and that we'd never been a big club.
 
THFC historian said:
I was on TalkSport yesterday (do forgive me!) Talking about this and I said that we are a big club but not in the current era. In the PL era we simply can't think of ourselves as a big club by trophies certainly.

There are many variables which can be thrown into the equation about what makes a big club.

I did laugh at the next caller, a Liverpool fan, who said in response to me saying we were a big club yesteryear that he laughed at my suggestion and that we'd never been a big club.
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I do hope you reminded him that pre Shankly. Liverpool had been in 2nd division for a few years and not even the biggest club on Merseyside.

Their first FA Cup win was a decade or so after Spurs had won it.

Nouveau riche back in the 80's
 
THFC historian said:
I was on TalkSport yesterday (do forgive me!) Talking about this and I said that we are a big club but not in the current era. In the PL era we simply can't think of ourselves as a big club by trophies certainly.

There are many variables which can be thrown into the equation about what makes a big club.

I did laugh at the next caller, a Liverpool fan, who said in response to me saying we were a big club yesteryear that he laughed at my suggestion and that we'd never been a big club.
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I would question even putting out there that a valid measurement of a 'big club' is recent trophies . To have a history of winning trophies over numerous decades, managers, can place you in the bracket of a big club.

To use how many won in the current PL era as a valid measurement, places Wigan and Portsmouth alongside us and Everton. It's non-sensical to use that as a variable to measure.

I'd argue, if your ground is big and full throughout this current era, if you have one of the best records for euro qualification in last 15 -18 years, only one of 4 to get to a Champs league final, and one of only 2 not bankrolled by dodgy money, in last 10 years, all make you a big club. To have record matchday revenue, be in top 5 for turnover?
How many big clubs are there then? and how many have qualified for Champs league more than us in last 6 years?

of course we're a big club, even in this current era. Up to you of course but I wouldn't even entertain TS with their clickbait nonsense.
 
mick derry said:
I would question even putting out there that a valid measurement of a 'big club' is recent trophies . To have a history of winning trophies over numerous decades, managers, can place you in the bracket of a big club.

To use how many won in the current PL era as a valid measurement, places Wigan and Portsmouth alongside us and Everton. It's non-sensical to use that as a variable to measure.

I'd argue, if your ground is big and full throughout this current era, if you have one of the best records for euro qualification in last 15 -18 years, only one of 4 to get to a Champs league final, and one of only 2 not bankrolled by dodgy money, in last 10 years, all make you a big club. To have record matchday revenue, be in top 5 for turnover?
How many big clubs are there then? and how many have qualified for Champs league more than us in last 6 years?

of course we're a big club, even in this current era. Up to you of course but I wouldn't even entertain TS with their clickbait nonsense.
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All great points.
 
My distinction for big and small clubs is the media coverage; if they make the national news, they're a big club; if they're only covered by the local rag, they're a small club.

Another shibboleth comes to mind: Have they made the Subbuteo catalogue?

If you've read about them in The Sun and you found a small green box with 11 plastic men painted in the team's strip, it's a big club.

I think Tottenham Hotspur comfortably fits that profile.
 
Kid Chameleon said:
My distinction for big and small clubs is the media coverage; if they make the national news, they're a big club; if they're only covered by the local rag, they're a small club.

Another shibboleth comes to mind: Have they made the Subbuteo catalogue?

If you've read about them in The Sun and you found a small green box with 11 plastic men painted in the team's strip, it's a big club.

I think Tottenham Hotspur comfortably fits that profile.
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To be fair. I have a Haringey Borough subbuteo team...
 
N5 Spur said:
Black and white tellies, penny chews, flared trousers the first time around, playing marbles on drains at school, teachers who could beat the shit out of you, having to press a 'party line' button on your home phone hoping the other bugger sharing the line wasn't listening in. I could go on...
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You had a phone????
 
N5 Spur said:
Three (3) channels on telly, Jubbly's, casual racism, Chippers and Choppers (depending on how big you were), Janet & John books at primary school, power cuts, the proverbial white dog shit (too much calcium in your tins of Winalot & Pedegree Chum, apparently), asbestos, shit haircuts, mum making 'hamburgers' with crusts cut off white bread slices, conkers, etc etc...
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Three channels???

Luxury
 
N5 Spur said:
Three (3) channels on telly, Jubbly's, casual racism, Chippers and Choppers (depending on how big you were), Janet & John books at primary school, power cuts, the proverbial white dog shit (too much calcium in your tins of Winalot & Pedegree Chum, apparently), asbestos, shit haircuts, mum making 'hamburgers' with crusts cut off white bread slices, conkers, etc etc...
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... sweets that looked like pebbles.
 
THFC historian said:
I was on TalkSport yesterday (do forgive me!) Talking about this and I said that we are a big club but not in the current era. In the PL era we simply can't think of ourselves as a big club by trophies certainly.

There are many variables which can be thrown into the equation about what makes a big club.

I did laugh at the next caller, a Liverpool fan, who said in response to me saying we were a big club yesteryear that he laughed at my suggestion and that we'd never been a big club.
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Forgive him - he might have been under 40 years old.
 
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