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Totally get that and I tried to say similar (just very badly).With regards to what he says in the media, I’m not sure I’d get too worried about it.
I can’t help but feel it’s one of those situations where he says one thing in front of the media but behind the scenes says something different. I think he wants to try and take the pressure off of the players and the coaches
e.g.
Saying set pieces aren’t an issue - he knows they are, but doesn’t want a witch-hunt on Jedinak and doesn’t want the players to believe the hype created in the media about Vic on corners.
The other one was his comments on not caring about Top 4, that got massively taken out of context. What he meant was that he’s not interested in just a top 4 challenge, he wants to win the league. he’s not satisfied with just settling for Europe.
FFS. It is NOT the same core of players.No one sane wants him sacked
We have to back someone this same core of players is on its 4th manager now. It's obvious where the problem lie and its the squad.
Ange will know who he wants and who he doesn't, my fear is that the goons who own us don't have the stomach to do what needs doing and accept the losses on players that need to go.
Forward line needs a full rebuild and it's looking more and more like we need at least 2 new midfielders also. And that's just this summer
Hear hearArteta - first five seasons
8
8
5
2
1*
Klopp - first five seasons
8
5
4
2
1
We had just come off our most diabolical season since… AVB? Longer?
Give the man time. Everyone would have taken 5th at the start of the season.
Klopp won 16 in his first season. Arteta won 14 in his first season. Postecoglou has already won 18.
Give him time you melts.
FFS. It is NOT the same core of players.
Please deal in facts where the issue is a matter of fact.
Is the defence and GK the same? No?
Is the midfield the same? Madders and Sarr were not in before this season. Biss hardly used. So no there too.
Is the attack the same? Well, Johnson and Werner were not here before this season either.
Son, Davies, Hojb ... yes. So what. Every club has a similar few survivors.
A year ago your observation had some validity. It has zero now.
Sorry Goat, here was I thinking there was a distinction between positivity and ignorance.Excuse me, CUNTO, but this is the positivity thread.
You wanna post your negative stuff, stick to other threads. Plenty of 'em.
Now please, vanish.
FFS. It is NOT the same core of players.
Please deal in facts where the issue is a matter of fact.
Is the defence and GK the same? No?
Is the midfield the same? Madders and Sarr were not in before this season. Biss hardly used. So no there too.
Is the attack the same? Well, Johnson and Werner were not here before this season either.
Son, Davies, Hojb ... yes. So what. Every club has a similar few survivors.
A year ago your observation had some validity. It has zero now.
With regards to what he says in the media, I’m not sure I’d get too worried about it.
I can’t help but feel it’s one of those situations where he says one thing in front of the media but behind the scenes says something different. I think he wants to try and take the pressure off of the players and the coaches
e.g.
Saying set pieces aren’t an issue - he knows they are, but doesn’t want a witch-hunt on Jedinak and doesn’t want the players to believe the hype created in the media about Vic on corners.
The other one was his comments on not caring about Top 4, that got massively taken out of context. What he meant was that he’s not interested in just a top 4 challenge, he wants to win the league. he’s not satisfied with just settling for Europe.
Unless you're counting Stellini and Mason, no this group isn't on its fourth manager. It's mostly a new squad vs the Mourinho and Nuno era.No one sane wants him sacked
We have to back someone this same core of players is on its 4th manager now. It's obvious where the problem lie and its the squad.
Ange will know who he wants and who he doesn't, my fear is that the goons who own us don't have the stomach to do what needs doing and accept the losses on players that need to go.
Forward line needs a full rebuild and it's looking more and more like we need at least 2 new midfielders also. And that's just this summer
unless Arse lose to bournemouth lolI’m cool long as we don’t put in a performance against City and hand Arse the title.
Brilliant - Thank you for the well considered dose of perspective.Arteta - first five seasons
8
8
5
2
1*
Klopp - first five seasons
8
5
4
2
1
We had just come off our most diabolical season since… AVB? Longer?
Give the man time. Everyone would have taken 5th at the start of the season.
Klopp won 16 in his first season. Arteta won 14 in his first season. Postecoglou has already won 18.
Give him time you melts.
I’m cool long as we don’t put in a performance against City and hand Arse the title.