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Transfers The Winter Transfer Thread - 25/26
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I tempered my language because I can't prove anything. Only what I saw on the pitch. Honestly, I think your take is uncharitable. The media desperately wanted him to go elsewhere and there were years of narrative building.
He wanted to win things, we didn't (ENIC/Levy, I mean).
FWIW, City are the only team I could have lived with him going. Top money, stolen medals, invalid achievements. But, ultimately he didn't go there.
I didn't see him down tools. Maybe his formed dipped, but not for long. Everything else is hearsay, or at the very least subject to confirmation bias. No point arguing about the latter, since we'll see what we want!
He gave us his youth and prime years. Please don't argue with that. Otherwise THAT is revisionism.
Didn’t Ange really want him? Is he a Frank player ?
Dude, we didn’t sell David Bentley because David Bentley decided he wasn’t going anywhere as was his prerogative given he had a fixed length contract that guaranteed him 60 grand or so a week.
Most players that you’re trying to move on aren’t going to be World Cup Winners given that a top team is trying to move them on so it isn’t about the glory. It becomes a simple mathematical problem: if I stay with less playing time, how will it affect my future contract(s) and will I make more or less if I stay or go?
For more senior players (who have peaked) with less time on future contracts (someone like Richi), the effect on a shorter professional lifespan is less than a younger player like Tel so they tend to stay and ‘fight for their place’. The opposite is how Barca were able to get rid of Emerson Royal and foist him on us.
A subsidized loan is probably the sweet spot — and Bentley turned those down
If you want to watch the ultimate example of this, check out Jack Rodwell in ‘We Are Sunderland’ refusing to accept any possibility of a move while the club faces back to back relegation and financial trouble.
From many of the posts, I gather that we had a ‘selling club’ chairman who couldn’t sell players; Schrodinger's Levy.
Our midfield lacks experience so we always need to start one of Bentancur or Palhinha. Bentancur's ball progression and ability to receive the ball in tight spaces is far superior to Palhinha which gives him the edge. Hence why Bentancur is a regular starter.
Not rocket science.
Personally, I’d rather have a ‘winger’ who can score 20 goals rather than create 10.
Johnson isn’t a winger. What do they say about fish on a bike?
Loans are a great way to see if a player is actually any good or not , the trouble is even when like Tel who showed he was not the droid we were looking for , we went and bought him anyway
I'd rather have two strikers and wingers who can cross the ball.
The two wingers; one striker system has ruined the game.
Under the current shit show players like Defoe and Keane would have been stuck on the wing and tracking back duty.
That's why I hate this system.
Brennan could have developed as a striker if the two up top was still a thing.
He knows how to score a goal and ironically that is why some supporters want rid of him.
It's fucking mad.
He's off to palace...
The downing tools statement is based on when he failed to report for preseason training. That's not speculative, its fact. He was fined for it by the club, proving it wasn't previously agreed he could have some extra days, but a tactic to try and force a move. The same one Modric tried, with the same results.
After he did return, he was poor in form and noticeably unconcerned about it for several months. It was clear he'd gotten the hump because he'd been denied the move.
And I agree - I could have lived with him going to City for the same reasons you state. Who cares if they win another trophy or not, its all fake glory anyway. In fact, I stated many times that summer we should sell him to them and even proposed we cash in on Son while his value was maxed as well.
Thankfully we didn't, because Son thrived without Kane for a while, and he deserved to win the EL trophy. And based on how we've frittered away money in the past several windows, we didn't need more to waste.
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Second transfer already after Signe Gaupset.
I don't know that he'd be the answer, and kinda doubt he is, but its worth a punt considering our ineptitude up front.
Who else are we going to get in? Loan with an option would be great, honestly. But I'm sure they want the cash now, not (maybe) later.
Fair point, I'd forgotten about the preseason thing. Small potatoes, but relevant. I think at that point, we all knew it was going to take a huge offer to allow him to go. City didn't pay it, Bayern did (£40m less, a year later). Amazing deal for us, really, if you ignore the part exchange crap we got. XD
To be fair to him, he could have stayed and seen out his contract. Would have been a nice earner, I'm sure.
Errmm... Well, not really.
We had a chairman who sold our best players. But didn't sell our worst players.
I'll be genuinely gutted if you ever stop posting on this board.
Solanke can absolutely stay fit... for everybody else.
EDIT: Just in case it wasn't clear, I mean we ruin players bodies somehow: luck, lack of medical skill, excessive demands, voodoo, building on an native american burial ground, prankster deities. Fuck knows.
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his biggest flaw is his lack of ability in playing build up football. you can get away with lacking physicality and aggression if you can actually play football.