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Transfers The Winter Transfer Thread - 25/26

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Tomo said:
Mateta is a good Frank player, big, quick, holds the ball well. Ideal if Solanke gets injured but it doesn’t solve the lack of a wide forward. We will have Solanke, Mateta, Richy and Scarlett for the CF and only Tel for the left and he wants to play central apparently.

We need a LWF much more than we need a CF
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Id much rather recall Lankshear than get Mateta

Mateta would come in on a significant wage, and cost probably, and after Frank is inevitably sacked he wont be worth anything to us - just another player we need to try and offload

And while Frank is here, even if Mateta suits him somewhat, I doubt he'll pull up any trees

Just not worth it, IMO
 
postbox said:
Id much rather recall Lankshear than get Mateta

Mateta would come in on a significant wage, and cost probably, and after Frank is inevitably sacked he wont be worth anything to us - just another player we need to try and offload

And while Frank is here, even if Mateta suits him somewhat, I doubt he'll pull up any trees

Just not worth it, IMO
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And what will Lamkshear do that evidence suggests will change anything on the pitch?

I get the concern about money being wasted but we are seeing or hoping for things in players who are clearly not viewed as being good enough.

I have no specific answers but we beed a striker of substance and who can cope with the demand. Not many about of course but Lankshear - just why?
 
I don't think striker should be a priority this window.

Dom is back and we are only in two competitions. We aren't gonna sign a CF that's better than Dom this window.
Tel and RKM can fill in there if needed. RKM could be a decent option if we can find a way to motivate him (does he want to play for France in the WC or not?)
Plus, we have bigger priorities like a LB, a winger, and a midfielder who can pass forwards.

The worst thing we can do is buy Mateta and then sack Frank to bring in a manager who wouldn't play Mateta anyway.
 
postbox said:
Id much rather recall Lankshear than get Mateta

Mateta would come in on a significant wage, and cost probably, and after Frank is inevitably sacked he wont be worth anything to us - just another player we need to try and offload

And while Frank is here, even if Mateta suits him somewhat, I doubt he'll pull up any trees

Just not worth it, IMO
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Correct.

It doesn’t matter what Frank wants. Frank should have absolutely zero input into signings at this point. He will only be here till May at the very latest, so why the fuck does it matter who he wants?

Mateta is just a signing for the sake of a signing. He’s almost 29, will cost £40-ish million, demand a big wage and has no better a track record than Solanke or Richarlison had prior to joining us.

If we can’t get anyone else, we should just be telling Kolo Muani he’s staying for the season and that’s it. So if he wants a chance of going to the World Cup, he’d better pull his finger out fast.
 
apparently this is from COYS. Might give some hope in lieu of any other news

From Guinevere: Irons (not a cryptic clue) are in the fire. One has been openly linked (though pronounced dead by some), one not. Whether we can get them over the line in time remains to be seen.
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Assume one is probably Robertson
 
Notabadsquad said:
And what will Lamkshear do that evidence suggests will change anything on the pitch?

I get the concern about money being wasted but we are seeing or hoping for things in players who are clearly not viewed as being good enough.

I have no specific answers but we beed a striker of substance and who can cope with the demand. Not many about of course but Lankshear - just why?
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Compared to Muani - actually WANT to play, run his guts out, put a shift in

Compared to Mateta - probably the same sort of job

Lankshear is already one of our own, is having a successful loan in the Championship, and deserves a chance with us more than a donkey from Palace

Mateta is a bad buy - if the choice is him or youth - I choose youth
 
postbox said:
Compared to Muani - actually WANT to play, run his guts out, put a shift in

Compared to Mateta - probably the same sort of job

Lankshear is already one of our own, is having a successful loan in the Championship, and deserves a chance with us more than a donkey from Palace

Mateta is a bad buy - if the choice is him or youth - I choose youth
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Agreed.

We're talking about spunking £35m away on Mateta, a (for some reason, ridiculously overrated) player who wouldn't improve our first team and would only be used when we're really in the shit. Lankshear can do that job. Maybe he gives 80% of what Mateta gives but at least you haven't spent £35m on a temporary fix and lumbered yourself with someone on £100k a week for 4 years.

IMO we need to get away from paying these sorts of fees on players. I'd say £20m max on Bergvall type punts is fine (young prospects with high a ceiling). But that's the limit. Invest more in the academy, attract better talent, then use academy products to rest and rotate when necessary and use the money you save from not panic buying players like Gallagher and Mateta on fewer players who actually improve us. Attracting better talent is also a lot easier when there's a clear pathway to the first team so that strategy benefits our academy too.

Yildiz for £80m/Leao for £70m are the profiles of player the 7th/8th richest club in world football should be looking at. Not Mateta (I know they're not strikers). Accept the fact that the market is shit for strikers at the moment, sit tight until the summer and spend what is needed then on a proper player.
 
postbox said:
Compared to Muani - actually WANT to play, run his guts out, put a shift in

Compared to Mateta - probably the same sort of job

Lankshear is already one of our own, is having a successful loan in the Championship, and deserves a chance with us more than a donkey from Palace

Mateta is a bad buy - if the choice is him or youth - I choose youth
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Fair points well made.

The evidence from Fearful Frank is that he prefers middling Muani to the exuberance of youth.

I don't really know, but I do think effort alone is not quite enough, and much as it's often easier to praise,it doesn't often mean it beats better objective quality.

Fairer to say we should simply not be in such a stare as to have by far the worst attacking options of any so-called big team. By far.
 
yes said:
Agreed.

We're talking about spunking £35m away on Mateta, a (for some reason, ridiculously overrated) player who wouldn't improve our first team and would only be used when we're really in the shit. Lankshear can do that job. Maybe he gives 80% of what Mateta gives but at least you haven't spent £35m on a temporary fix and lumbered yourself with someone on £100k a week for 4 years.

IMO we need to get away from paying these sorts of fees on players. I'd say £20m max on Bergvall type punts is fine (young prospects with high a ceiling). But that's the limit. Invest more in the academy, attract better talent, then use academy products to rest and rotate when necessary and use the money you save from not panic buying players like Gallagher and Mateta on fewer players who actually improve us. Attracting better talent is also a lot easier when there's a clear pathway to the first team so that strategy benefits our academy too.

Yildiz for £80m/Leao for £70m are the profiles of player the 7th/8th richest club in world football should be looking at. Not Mateta (I know they're not strikers). Accept the fact that the market is shit for strikers at the moment, sit tight until the summer and spend what is needed then on a proper player.
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Im very happy with a 2-tier approach.

Ive always greatly enjoyed our youth policy, the Bergvall, Gray, Odobert, Tel type buys, and I absolutely would continue with these.

I also think we need to buy real quality to improve the team above them.

And between the two we can find a nice balance.

Im not overly bothered on the cost exactly, more the profile.


What it requires though is an ovrearching plan/view/process at the club, something we really lack.

We need that view of when players are ready to step up, when to allow room for them, when to sell/cash in on established stars...
 
Notabadsquad said:
Fair points well made.

The evidence from Fearful Frank is that he prefers middling Muani to the exuberance of youth.

I don't really know, but I do think effort alone is not quite enough, and much as it's often easier to praise,it doesn't often mean it beats better objective quality.

Fairer to say we should simply not be in such a stare as to have by far the worst attacking options of any so-called big team. By far.
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My immediate feeling with Muani Mateta (edit) is that Richarlison is similar but much better

And I think its fairly well agreed we need to do better than Richarlison

And while people dont rate Solanke, I think he is showing (immediately) he is a considerably better footballer than both

So, if we are buying a striker, that player needs to raise the level, not pad out the bottom end of quality we have

I would much prefer we just get someone who is real quality, that would be my first choice

In the event we cant, and its a choice between the like of Mateta or not - I choose not. I think theres more value in promoting youth, be that Tel/Lankshear/Scarlett - long term thats better IMO
 
Only City have spent more than half this window. Might be third after Palace spend 50m on Strand Larsen.

Most teams haven’t spent even 5m.

January is a tough month.
 
I really genuinely believed we’d get an attacking mf/wide forward like Akliouche and maybe another attacker a marmoush/the Porto lad type..

How fucking naïve/thick am I….
 
If you add up all the £20m-£35m players we have bought in the last few years, who haven't gone on to do much for us, because at those prices with today's values, they are just bang-average Prem players, we would have been better lumping the money together to buy less, but better, players. I hope all these rumours are not true, as we seem to be sniffing around players of that type of value again. We won't improve the first team by buying more of the same.

Being in the CL is a pull, so get rid of Frank, get in someone who the players would respect and who would attract top players, then spend the money on quality, not quantity. I think that the summer transfer window, with a new manager, is going to be what we now have to wait for.
 
Tomo said:
Palace used to have Freedman who got them

• Eberechi Eze
• Michael Olise
• Marc Guéhi
• Adam Wharton

Shows what a good sporting director can do.
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I mentioned Freedman the other day

Saw a rumour/tweet that said when Amanda Stavely was looking to take over she was planning to bring Frrdman in with her

He did an EXCELLENT job at Palace

I wonder what he could do with a club like ours. A lot like managers I think theres a question of whether or not a DoF can scale up.

Can he swim in deeper waters....


EDIT : I just googled Al-Diriyah transfers (where he now is) and look who the first buy that came up is 😄


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