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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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This is my big issue with Frank. Every game now we have long periods of being absolutely hopeless and can't make anything happen up top. It can't be excused as tactical this evening, given the opposition. This is an issue that's not going away. It needs addressing quickly, because it's not sustainable.

Basically you want us to be the finished article within the first 5-6 weeks of his tenure; despite the fact that if asked you'd insist that half the squad are shite.

"Not unreasonable" of you at all.
 
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Frankball - king of the cleansheets.
 
Nasty work, you had it down as a loss when we didn't even lose in normal time.

What?

They changed the rules of football a losses on penalties now count as draws?

Give it up.

The point about perception is massive because most people watch the game with a pre conceived perception before it starts and see mostly what their confirmation bias wants them to see.

With Frank, though, the difference between this season and last season is pretty objective. We are less risky in possession, so we are much more solid defensively. We are also much smarter at transitioning through the phases defensively. We aren’t as fluid in an attacking sense but we are getting regular goals from set pieces.

Essentially, the good results under Ange felt less secure but were more exciting and the good results under Frank feel less exciting but much more repeatable and secure.
 
What?

They changed the rules of football a losses on penalties now count as draws?

Give it up.

The point about perception is massive because most people watch the game with a pre conceived perception before it starts and see mostly what their confirmation bias wants them to see.

With Frank, though, the difference between this season and last season is pretty objective. We are less risky in possession, so we are much more solid defensively. We are also much smarter at transitioning through the phases defensively. We aren’t as fluid in an attacking sense but we are getting regular goals from set pieces.

Essentially, the good results under Ange felt less secure but were more exciting and the good results under Frank feel less exciting but much more repeatable and secure.

If you're comparing records with our previous manager and claim they have identical records and the only thing that's separating them is perception then you're being totally disingenuous.

You don't need to tell me about 'confirmation bias' in regards to Ange, we all know how he has been perceived in football but using it as a comparison in this context is bullshit.
 
Comparing a glorified friendly which was lost on pens to a competitive match, yeah nothing disingenuous about that at all lol

The comparison doesn't work unless they manage identical matches - how does the comparison between the Prem records stand up?
It wasn't a friendly, glorified or whatever. And we lost.
3 points more than last season for EPL games.
 
After 8 games this season we are 5-1-2, F16-A5. Last season 5-1-2, 17-6.
All about perceptions, innit?
Not quite, given one of the 2 was against the best club team in the world, who we took to pens, after being the better team!

Bournemouth was shite. Really shite. And we all saw the old Postecoglou team in that game. But that won't wash if we have performances like that in a couple of months time.
 
Ok.

If we're counting the European Super Cup, we should be counting the pre-season north london derby as there is such thing as a friendly one of those.

Simples
 
BTW anyone even veering towards thinking negative thoughts about Frank right now can get fucked and never post here again. Your kind aren't welcome here.
 
What?

They changed the rules of football a losses on penalties now count as draws?

Give it up.

The point about perception is massive because most people watch the game with a pre conceived perception before it starts and see mostly what their confirmation bias wants them to see.

With Frank, though, the difference between this season and last season is pretty objective. We are less risky in possession, so we are much more solid defensively. We are also much smarter at transitioning through the phases defensively. We aren’t as fluid in an attacking sense but we are getting regular goals from set pieces.

Essentially, the good results under Ange felt less secure but were more exciting and the good results under Frank feel less exciting but much more repeatable and secure.
The other thing is that Ange was 13 / 14 months into his tenure then. Give Frank a chance!
 
Comparing a glorified friendly which was lost on pens to a competitive match, yeah nothing disingenuous about that at all lol

The comparison doesn't work unless they manage identical matches - how does the comparison between the Prem records stand up?

It’s definitely a competitive match. There is a trophy at stake that we’d all have loved to win.

It’s just an all competition comparison, did he leave out any games for Ange?

Bit of a weird take tbh
 
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