A caretaker for the season manager frank. Dont want him around next season. Stinks of mediocrity. Poch. Tuchel or De Zerbi for me but poch is my preference.
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Manager Thomas Frank
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I don't buy the relegation argument as a reason to sack him. We're not very good but we'll comfortably get to 40 points under him.
No point bringing in another stop gap. We'd be better off just seeing it through with Frank and then starting fresh in the summer and aiming to get someone genuinely top quality rather than turning the season into yet another circus. I think that hurts out chances of attracting a proper manager in the summer.
My caveat being, if we do end up in a genuine relegation battle or everything gets completely toxic then the above goes out the window and we'll have no choice but to bin him.
Yes agree. I was pretty neutral about his appointment. There were others Id of definitely preferred.
There is a lot of weeding out to do but I fear the job is too big for him
He's a Brentford mentality stamped all over him.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if we go for De Zerbi because we always swing from one extreme to the other . RDZ is like the anti-Frank in terms of personality
We are in a genuine relegation battle now.
There are teams below us who have beaten us easily.
Forest today Fulham and Bournemouth.
We are shit and cannot afford to give this chump any more time.
He's failed the audition.
In a season where Woolwich will challenge for the title we cannot play Russian Roulette, regarding relegation, with this clown after today.
Fuck him off and lift the morale.
Problem is we would have a different first eleven and different definitions of decent. All these players are decent or they wouldn't be internationals would they?
If you reframe the question then I would build a team around Romero, VDV, Vuskovic
Udogie, Kudus, Simons, Gray and Maddison. Id play 3-4-2-1 and turn Kudus into a RWB. Udogie as LWB. Gray + a top quality CM then Simons and Maddison scheming behind a quality 9. Need a top GK too. I'd keep Bergvall too.
Probably get a ton of stick but we can't sell/release 25 players and buy 25 new players.
Probably in a sock on your floor.
My biggest concerns with appointing Frank were that he had been at Brentford too long and become stuck in his ways and was just too comfortable. But mainly it was that Brentford are just a really well run club that much like Brighton can flip between managers with no real fall off. Dean Smith got the Villa gig after doing decent at Brentford and Mark Warburton went to Rangers and both bombed. The clubs and the set up are the star asset at Brentford and its why despite having lost Wissa, Mbeumo, Norgaard and appointing Keith Andrews who has no managerial experience they are carrying on much like before.
Fuck me, the chutzpah
When you've stopped gaslighting and feeling sorry for yourself you might want to acknowledge that the reality of this forum is that anyone who dared simply support the previous manager - just like you're now (rightly) demanding we support Frank - was dismissed and mocked as a "Cultist" to the point that most were driven from the forum. Even the dedicated "positivity" thread for those who wanted to support Postecoglou in the darkest times last winter was regularly infested with abuse.
I see you're now bemoaning our sacky sack culture. I complete agree. One of us is consistent at least
He need to change something, show some guts.
Dropping Vicario should be natural move. Waking call for players that feel too comfortable, and on the other hand you can't tell its not justified.
Porro on the bench, Spence as RB and Micky on the left could be tried as well - Porro is shit these days and come on, Ben Davies still getting any PL minutes as full back in 2025?
Prolly won't help that much cause we are completely toothless in possession, our midfield is mess, and Richarlison is still there getting major minutes. But at least Frank could show he is trying something new to fight for his job, not just standard rotation.
Dropping Vicario should be natural move. Waking call for players that feel too comfortable, and on the other hand you can't tell its not justified.
Porro on the bench, Spence as RB and Micky on the left could be tried as well - Porro is shit these days and come on, Ben Davies still getting any PL minutes as full back in 2025?
Prolly won't help that much cause we are completely toothless in possession, our midfield is mess, and Richarlison is still there getting major minutes. But at least Frank could show he is trying something new to fight for his job, not just standard rotation.
Tbh i get vibe some of the players dont rate frank. Have to be honwst when we hired him was like a lead balloon.
Frank is too pussy to challenge any of the senior players
Romero will be lucky to play 30 league games over the season, is prone to errors, lapses of concentration and yellow cards.
Udogie has the same disease regarding missing games.
Gray is a utility man who excels at nothing.
Maddison is finished at Spurs. He's not here this season and by the time he comes back will be closer to 30 than 29 and recovering from a serious injury.
Spurs can currently only rely on VDV, Spence, Palhinha, Kudus and Muani to be available most of the time and achieve the same / similar level of performance in every game.
Every other player misses too many games through injury or suspension, has discipline problems, is error prone or inconsistent.
Some of them are just utter gash and should never have been signed for the club.
We need to wake up.
We have a group of mainly shit players, many of whom think they are better than they are, managed by a man who is out of his depth and comfort zone, who is being taken for a mug by several senior players.
Spurs are a disaster.
A rudderless ship.
Some of our players are average but most of the teams above us have average players in their squads and they aren’t as bad at football as we are. Everton beat Forest 3-0 last week with Barry up front and Keane at CB, there is no excuse for what we are currently showing.
theyve been publicly disrespecting him from pretty much the off. VDV and spence gave him the cold shoulder in front of everyone months back. ive noticed loads of times the players treating him like shit when they walk past after being subbed or whatever, bunch of cunts to be honest. not sure who they think they are, fuck the lot of them, 80% of them are shit and will only go backwards from here.
Yeah that's what im worried about... But if that's the cause, he will be off sooner than later
That's the problem.
They players know it to.
You're on hiding to nothing.
Outsmarted by sean dyche. Fuck off. Frank will walk the plank end of season. Nice bloke etc and admirable. But not good enough for tottenham.
I think you are right about the thought of the players.
I thought Frank's appointment was fine but I think it's more about his methods and messaging that have become the issue.
There appears little in terms of belief, fear or respect
I don't see how that can translate to success, and today's display should have alarm bells ringing where it matters most.