Wolves, Fulham, Villa...
So many infuriating performances already this season.
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Wolves, Fulham, Villa...
Wolves, Fulham, Villa...
So many infuriating performances already this season.
Toxic Tottenham - the obvious upside is the pay off when sacked or the lucrative contract with no real pressure for the players.The worrying thing for me is that this club just seems to corrupt everyone that comes into contact with it.
Losing 20 league games and finishing 17th one place out of the relegation places under the previous coach. Imagine what would have happened if they weren’t bursting a gut for him and had actually downed tools.
That would be the sensible option but once the losses keep piling up everyone from Vinai to Fabio to Lange are gonna be in arse-covering mode as all their jobs are gonna be on the line too.Cant see him being sacked even after defeats to those 2 tbh.
They will wait for the Summer. More manager choice, and giving him a full season makes it look more like a fair considered decision
I wouldn't put too much stock in that aspect of things really, most players that leave us head off out to some real footballing backwaters, them winning a cup or two there isn't much to shout about.Toxic Tottenham - the obvious upside is the pay off when sacked or the lucrative contract with no real pressure for the players.
For us fans - esp us paying fans - there isn’t an upside to this corruptive club. Other than to walk away. We’ve been at 1990’s Spurs levels for what seems like ages now. 2015-2019 is like a weird fever dream.
These managers/players are not as bad as they appear when they are with us - hence the embarrassingly long list of players who have tasted success (form, trophies, memories) with other teams once they’ve escaped N17.
Joke club - and it isn’t ALL Levy’s fault
I wouldn’t be surprised if Frank is looking at some of these players and thinking the same thingThey don't respect him that's for sure.
Say what you want about the previous coach, they never stopped running for him and he led them to a trophy, they're probably looking at this guy thinking he's a massive downgrade.
There's no difference between this season and last season. We'd probably have a decent shot at the Europa this season but we aren't in the competition. It is a shit competition now that no CL teams drop down after the group stage. We are 11th in the CL and 11th in the PL. Europe is complete shit in comparison to the PL and its financial power.They don't respect him that's for sure.
Say what you want about the previous coach, they never stopped running for him and he led them to a trophy, they're probably looking at this guy thinking he's a massive downgrade.
They don't respect him that's for sure.
Say what you want about the previous coach, they never stopped running for him and he led them to a trophy, they're probably looking at this guy thinking he's a massive downgrade.
Alright, time for some armchair speculation as to why managers are treated as God's gift to the world by some people who have no problem slagging off other employees of the club. Scroll past this if you can't stand such speculation.
And no, the current highly critical mood in this thread doesn't refute the existence and persistence of this weird phenomenon: I have a good enough memory to remember the vehement gatekeeping going on here a month or two ago, and I also remember the last season. It is real.
-------I guess their presence in the dugout and in front of the press week in and week out as the representative of the club, getting soaked in rain or battling with those nasty reporters in the process, lends itself to a construction of them as these big & strong selfless father figures that the rest of the family should gather around and look up to. You may have your grievances about your father, but you express your discontent within limits. And you are not cutting ties with him, don't even think about it.
Until very recently, this was the common theme in this thread. Very mild criticism, filled with caveats that you don't want Frank sacked, was tolerated. But any suggestion of sacking him was scorned as sacrilegious. I felt sorry for those people who flat out received abuse for their views, and even found myself playing the devil's advocate to criticize him despite being [cautiously] optimistic about him overall. Look where we are now.
Konrad Lorenz's ducks and geese could be excused for following any big object as an attachment figure a few days after their birth, but grown people should know better than to get this attached to total strangers. Come on now.
So, yesterday was my Christmas Day, because of circumstances, not going to be with family this year, so cooked a meal my for close friends, to celebrate, I live a couple of hundred of miles away from my family.
So whilst in middle of cooking the Christmas Dinner with all the trimmings, I got a text from ma mum, saying that my Uncle had passed away... Day fucking ruined, but I soldiered on, coz my friends were all their having fun, you know, keeping up appearances.
Didn't look for the match results through out the day, I left my phone as far away from me as possible, just wasn't in the mood for it.
But after they had left, I watched the highlights and the results... I knew I shouldn't have.
All I can say, is our club is full cunts... Cuntingham Hotspurs, that is who we are... Just cunts, the most fungus riddled useless bunch of cunts.
And it wont matter if you change the manager, coz the cunts will still be at the club. There are very few players who deserve to stay at the clubs... rest of the are cunts, doing the same cuntish thing every fucking game, cunts on the pitch, cunts off the pitch, and some cunt fans are defending these cunts.
Cuntingham Hotspurs can really just go fuck themselves right now.
And Frank the cunt, need to fucking wake up to or fuck off. Cunt
I wouldn’t be surprised if Frank is looking at some of these players and thinking the same thing
I wouldn’t be surprised if Frank is looking at some of these players and thinking the same thing
They stayed invested for the EL fixtures, but delivered plenty of utter stinkers in the league throughout the season.
Was the former despite him rather than because of him? Probably won't find out for sure.....
I don’t disagree that much of the team are mediocre and need upgrading.It is about right though.
We are run like a mid table club, with mid table quality players, and way below mid table in term of back room (recruiting) staff
Until people accept that, and stop overestimating us we will be in this never ending cycle.
We are in the main beating teams worse than us, and in the main beating teams we should be beating based on our quality.
We were 8th favourites at start of season, and I thought some of that was based on our name, because I didn’t think we had 8th best available team, more like 10th.
We need better quality, some will come when long term absentees return, but a big clear out is needed.
We arguably only have 2 players that other top clubs might want (our central defenders).
Look at Forest yesterday.Forest, I would take every one of their midfielders over any of ours