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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Lose tomorrow and he's gotta be getting the sack.

8 losses out of 18 PL games, just 4 pts clear of 18th...whatever the circumstances, that's unacceptable.

But then again we have a Gooner CEO and ENIC let Ange lose 22 league games last season so <<insert Mick McCarthy 'It can' joke>>.
Who knows what its going to take for Frank to go after the Ange situation.
Though I would prefer for Frank to coach us into creating more chances and winning games instead of the feeling of inevitability at the moment.
I think if we lose our next three, that will probably be what it takes in my opinion.
 
Who knows what its going to take for Frank to go after the Ange situation.
Though I would prefer for Frank to coach us into creating more chances and winning games instead of the feeling of inevitability at the moment.
I think if we lose our next three, that will probably be what it takes in my opinion.
We were always in with a shout of winning something in Ange's second season, and that's what kept him in his job, but unless we can beat Villa in the cup, there's no hope of a trophy this season for Frank to cling onto.
 
The person that took us to 17th had been here 2 years and had Maddison, Solanke, Kulu and Son.

Frank's been here half a season and hasn't had any of them.

It may not be great right now, but that comparison can't be held up.
True

But let’s not deflect away from his primary tactic of passing the ball backwards, and spamming long throws

The players are shit and he’s shit. Both are true
 
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Amazing that we are even talking about this when 5-6 years ago we were talking about winning the league and the CL. This club goes faster in reverse than a Ferarri going forwards.

All it took was one useless Australian to make us even believe we'd finish below 8th.


For anyone like harry7 or candrews about to dip into their copy and paste notes
  • No, scraping a Europa League win does not make a blind bit of difference to that
  • You can appreciate that we won that trophy whilst also accepting that it was not a feat of managerial excellence
 

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I’m not saying it’s good enough.

I’m saying to the people who think we will be in a relegation battle ‘get over yourself’.
Slim margins, mate. We're not in a relegation battle by virtue of the current bottom three being utter wank. We have a 10 point effective gap to WH in 18th and that should be enough. But lose against CP and Brentford and we are definitely at risk if WH manage to pick up wins against Brighton and Wolves, which is not inconceivable.

Of course, if we win those two games and results elsewhere go in our favour, we could be sitting in 8th by 10pm on NYD.
 

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What rubbish is he talking about.. It's not even a dip. It a crash down the Mariana Trench.

🎙️| Thomas Frank:

“I think the biggest ongoing thing to work on is still the offensive part of the game. It's not that we haven't worked on it. And I said it's not that it hasn't been a big focus. I think we started the season quite well on it, then had a dip, and now I think we're on the up again, actually.”
 
My worry with Frank is he seems very normal when it comes to personality.

He isn’t a psycho like Pep or Klopp, a total cunt like Arteta, deluded like Ange. He is just very normal and realistic. That is fine for analysis but a coach needs that bite, the players should be scared or inspired. I don’t get that sense they are. What is the dream. With Ange it was a trophy, with Poch domination, what’s Frank’s dream.
 

Notice any similarities with us....... History repeating itself

"

Going into his sophomore year at Brøndby, which also happened to be the season that the club would celebrate its 50th anniversary, expectations grew. The young players now had a year under the belt as first-teamers, and Jan Bech Andersen splurged in the transfer window.

Brøndby broke the club’s transfer record when Daniel Agger returned home from Liverpool to finish his career, and with him came club legend Johan Elmander, who was a part of the 2004/05 double-winning squad under Michael Laudrup. Officially, the goal was to finish in the top three, but internally, the expensive, big-name signings meant that the team should challenge for the title.

The significant investment in the squad didn’t help much on the pitch, though. Brøndby were easily dismantled during Europa League qualification by a skilled Club Brugge side that won 5-0 on aggregate. At home, things weren’t much better.

Although Brøndby enjoyed an early-season victory at home against København, inconsistent results were commonplace. The team managed to play three games against newly-promoted Hobro IK, a semi-professional outfit with no prior Superliga experience, without winning. It negated all the good work against their biggest rivals.

Whilst it was clear that Frank wanted to control possession with his 4-2-3-1 formation, Brøndby barely created any chances. Even against the worse teams in the league, it was a fight to score goals, and when it happened, it often seemed like it was more down to the individual class of the players rather than the strategy working as intended.

On the sidelines, Frank often looked helpless, and while he was generally well-liked amongst the fans because of his communication skills and modern leadership style, cracks began appearing in the foundations.

On the Sydsiden Stand, home of the most dedicated and vocal fans, the optimistic and cheerful Brøndby chants were slowly exchanged in favour of more pessimistic and negative tomes from the club’s tumultuous period of fighting relegation a few years earlier. Questions were raised about Frank’s ability to lead a big club like Brøndby and to motivate the experienced stars.


These questions became even louder during the winter break when Brøndby played a friendly against Hoffenheim in Germany. The Danes lost 7-0, while the press revealed that Frank needed advice from Agger on how to handle the embarrassment and punish the team, which damaged his standing among the players.

After Agger retired, he spoke about the discussion he had with Frank on that day in Germany. ‘You know that we have spoken about consequences and those things. So what are you going to do now?’ he asked Frank. “We lost 7-0 and a lot of guys didn’t perform well enough. Maybe we aren’t in shape, but it was also mentally that we were wrong.”

Agger suggested that Frank should call the players back to the training pitch during the upcoming days off. Frank was hesitant to follow the advice, seemingly unsure about demanding too much, to which Agger responded: “Of course you can. It is the only way people will understand. If I was coach, I would tell the players that they should show up in the morning. Only bring running shoes and we’ll go to the Brøndby woods.”

Frank eventually followed the advice from his captain, but his soft style was not well-liked among the players, which Agger later spoke about. “As a person I really liked Thomas Frank, but as a coach, he wasn’t the one I liked the most,” Daniel Agger said in 2017 when asked by Ekstra Bladet. “I am from the old school, where a football team has to be built around discipline and a hierarchy, but it wasn’t like that at all when I returned to Brøndby,” he recalled.

Brøndby went to finish third in the league, officially meeting the goal set out before the season, but it wasn’t in an impressive manor. The proud club finished 16 points behind FC Midtjylland and managed just 43 goals in 33 league games."
 
Doesn’t matter who the manager is, unless we upgrade the relegation scrapping idiots. Not advocating keeping Frank, Inwould sack him before Palace, but we have to get three footballers in next week. Guardiola or Alonso wouldn’t get these fools playing cohesively
What’s the point of this recruitment department getting in 3 players

Seriously … the last 15 they’ve brought in were sub standard what makes you think the next 3 won’t be ?
 
10 points is an enormous gap for a relegation threatened team even with half a season remaining.

Correct, but an effective 6 point swing in the next 2 (West Ham) and 3 for us changes that very quickly.

The biggest issue we have is that we just lose and lose.

It's become a virus for the club, and the newly appointed Doctor has failed to find an antidote, and appears to be more like a quack than a prospective consultant.
 
All it took was one useless Australian to make us even believe we'd finish below
  • No, scraping a Europa League win does not make a blind bit of difference to that
  • You can appreciate that we won that trophy whilst also accepting that it was not a feat of managerial excellence
The shame of it all, is it only would've needed Poch to take ONE domestic Cup or Europa League campIngn seriously enough to win it, to not make his time here as frustratingly trophyless as it had to be!
The fact THAT 2016-19 TEAM didn't win anything is bordering on criminal negligence!
 
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