Transfer window shutting 3 weeks before rest of Europe

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Think this deserves own thread.

Said it at the time. Its stupid to close our window early. All it has done is give an advantage to our european rivals who can now compete for players without English money getting in the way.

Its like playing cards. The fist person to play is at a disadvantage. The last has an advantage of seeing what the other players have.

We have effectively cut our nose off to spite our face. Cleared the trouble of having transfers ruin start of the season. But lost a key player (Dybala) to a european rival (PSG) having more time to negotiate.

Find it bizarre that someone as smart as Levy voted for this. And Im not suprised Poch is asking for it to end
 
You should also take into account the fact that the existing format damn near killed hundreds of people on this forum. Another 3 weeks and they'd all be dead.
 
Closing the window before the season starts is logical, what the leagues need to do is agree on a simultaneous closure across Europe. Either that or make a rule where there can be no business in OR out once a window is closed. It's not right that foreign teams can continue to unsettle players after our window has closed.
 
The argument was back and forth ...

Closing a window before the season starts means that every squad is confirmed and all teams start on an equal basis, in theory that makes perfect sense .... indeed it has worked well for the EPL with all clubs getting their transfers done and squads registered.

Conversely why should Europe be made to close it's window early just because the EPL starts a week before Germany and Spain, and two weeks before Italy ...

The issue this raises is with European clubs being able to 'buy' players after the EPL window closes, so why is that an issue, can't the EPL just say no?

Poch is saying he doesn't know if Eriksen is staying or going, but the truth is he probably knows what it will take, there will be a number that the transfer team will have agreed is acceptable for us to sell Eriksen / Danny / Toby / Victor and probably a few more ... feck if PSG offered 500m for Kane should we take it? how about 700m or 1,000m there will always be a number for any player. Of course what Poch doesn't know is if that number will be triggered by a European club, that's his and every EPL manager's problem how can they plan if one, two, three players might suddenly vanish. In the end Spurs can always just say no but that could be a very poor business decision.

The far bigger problem was highlighted in the Dybala negotiation. Whilst every effort might have been made to get the deal done, for Juve they always knew that should the Spurs deal fail they still had three weeks to sell Dybala, that's a huge problem for Spurs. It means that clubs like PSG can wave 85/90/100m at Dybala in early August keeping Juve from selling to the EPL, but the minute the EPL window shuts they can drop the offer to the same 65m or less that Spurs were offering ... that huge advantage is what Poch is rightly pissed about, gives the European clubs two goes in the same window the pre EPL close, and the post EPL close.

The solution is for all the European leagues to close the transfer window a week before the season starts, and for all Leagues to start on the same weekend ... but since when has common sense mattered ...
 
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Don't think it's much of an issue tbh - the money in the english game means there's little risk of players being poached so you don't have to worry about that and it gives you a bit more time to clear out the deadwood
 
once the window closes it should be closed in or out, so window closed in EPL on Thursday so no player can come or go in EPL (maybe that should include free agents)
all clubs have had a reasonable time to buy/sell
 
Don't think it's much of an issue tbh - the money in the english game means there's little risk of players being poached so you don't have to worry about that and it gives you a bit more time to clear out the deadwood
once the window closes it should be closed in or out, so window closed in EPL on Thursday so no player can come or go in EPL (maybe that should include free agents)
all clubs have had a reasonable time to buy/sell

Selling EPL players is only part of the problem, no EPL club can be forced to sell ... the bigger issue is European clubs buying players at very reduced prices once the EPL clubs are no longer allowed to compete ... be interesting to see if an cut-price transfers now happen ....
 
Don't think it's much of an issue tbh - the money in the english game means there's little risk of players being poached so you don't have to worry about that and it gives you a bit more time to clear out the deadwood

Its not about being poached its about having to pay higher prices for targets. The seller knows if you cant get a deal with an English club you can always sell continental.
 
The argument was back and forth ...

Closing a window before the season starts means that every squad is confirmed and all teams start on an equal basis, in theory that makes perfect sense .... indeed it has worked well for the EPL with all clubs getting their transfers done and squads registered.

Conversely why should Europe be made to close it's window early just because the EPL starts a week before Germany and Spain, and two weeks before Italy ...

The issue this raises is with European clubs being able to 'buy' players after the EPL window closes, so why is that an issue, can't the EPL just say no?

Poch is saying he doesn't know if Eriksen is staying or going, but the truth is he probably knows what it will take, there will be a number that the transfer team will have agreed is acceptable for us to sell Eriksen / Danny / Toby / Victor and probably a few more ... feck if PSG offered 500m for Kane should we take it? how about 700m or 1,000m there will always be a number for any player. Of course what Poch doesn't know is if that number will be triggered by a European club, that's his and every EPL manager's problem how can they plan if one, two, three players might suddenly vanish. In the end Spurs can always just say no but that could be a very poor business decision.

The far bigger problem was highlighted in the Dybala negotiation. Whilst every effort might have been made to get the deal done, for Juve they always knew that should the Spurs deal fail they still had three weeks to sell Dybala, that's a huge problem for Spurs. It means that clubs like PSG can wave 85/90/100m at Dybala in early August keeping Juve from selling to the EPL, but the minute the EPL window shuts they can drop the offer to the same 65m or less that Spurs were offering ... that huge advantage is what Poch is rightly pissed about, gives the European clubs two goes in the same window the pre EPL close, and the post EPL close.

The solution is for all the European leagues to close the transfer window a week before the season starts, and for all Leagues to start on the same weekend ... but since when has common sense mattered ...
I disagree.
 
The argument was back and forth ...

Closing a window before the season starts means that every squad is confirmed and all teams start on an equal basis, in theory that makes perfect sense .... indeed it has worked well for the EPL with all clubs getting their transfers done and squads registered.

Conversely why should Europe be made to close it's window early just because the EPL starts a week before Germany and Spain, and two weeks before Italy ...

The issue this raises is with European clubs being able to 'buy' players after the EPL window closes, so why is that an issue, can't the EPL just say no?

Poch is saying he doesn't know if Eriksen is staying or going, but the truth is he probably knows what it will take, there will be a number that the transfer team will have agreed is acceptable for us to sell Eriksen / Danny / Toby / Victor and probably a few more ... feck if PSG offered 500m for Kane should we take it? how about 700m or 1,000m there will always be a number for any player. Of course what Poch doesn't know is if that number will be triggered by a European club, that's his and every EPL manager's problem how can they plan if one, two, three players might suddenly vanish. In the end Spurs can always just say no but that could be a very poor business decision.

The far bigger problem was highlighted in the Dybala negotiation. Whilst every effort might have been made to get the deal done, for Juve they always knew that should the Spurs deal fail they still had three weeks to sell Dybala, that's a huge problem for Spurs. It means that clubs like PSG can wave 85/90/100m at Dybala in early August keeping Juve from selling to the EPL, but the minute the EPL window shuts they can drop the offer to the same 65m or less that Spurs were offering ... that huge advantage is what Poch is rightly pissed about, gives the European clubs two goes in the same window the pre EPL close, and the post EPL close.

The solution is for all the European leagues to close the transfer window a week before the season starts, and for all Leagues to start on the same weekend ... but since when has common sense mattered ...
Pochettino was also pissed about the window shutting during the season...now he's done a 180...and another thing is that we were working on the Dybala deal for three weeks which Juve pulled out off, why would they do that just to get less money from PSG...
 
We tried to dictate / go it alone. After the European clubs said they wouldn't start earlier (heat in Spain etc) we really should have looked at starting our season later and hopefully meeting in the middle. Closing the window before the season starts is a great idea but we should have worked with the other countries to do this effectively.
 
There should have been some sort of agreement, whether changing the start of leagues to all match or all to agree on the window close date or not at all. In the current situation it only takes a big balls bid from say Madrid in the next couple of weeks for one of your best players to fuck things up for the rest of the season.
 
There should have been some sort of agreement, whether changing the start of leagues to all match or all to agree on the window close date or not at all. In the current situation it only takes a big balls bid from say Madrid in the next couple of weeks for one of your best players to fuck things up for the rest of the season.
We didn’t really try, we told them they should shut when we do and when they said no shut ours then anyway... Didn't even try to negotiate... I. E we start ours a week or so later
 
Ours was until last year, we only just decided to change and because we did they're being wankers? Don't buy it pal
OK. Staggered windows and leagues. Fury muff.

Fear not though sunbeam, this will inevitably be used as more reasoning, added to the already mounting ammunition for the future of the game and it's elite super dooper whooper league, playing matches in dubai and fucking china lol!

Wrong thread mind.
 
OK. Staggered windows and leagues. Fury muff.

Fear not though sunbeam, this will inevitably be used as more reasoning, added to the already mounting ammunition for the future of the game and it's elite super dooper whooper league, playing matches in dubai and fucking china lol!

Wrong thread mind.
Maybe but this was us deciding to go unilaterally, we tried to convince them to shut their window when we wanted rather than look at any other options.

I think we should have all shutting at the same time at the start of the season but we can't impose our start on others. We are kind of getting an advantage if all shut at the start of our window as we can account for unexpected injury right up to the start of our season while others will have 4 weeks.
 
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