Thanks. It was a really serious post so I’m so pleased to have your response. It will help to make my posts more inclusive in future.
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Thanks. It was a really serious post so I’m so pleased to have your response. It will help to make my posts more inclusive in future.
Man united were a nothing club before Ferguson and have been a nothing club since he left
He is solely responsible for them being as big as they are now and would have won the same trophies at any club he went to
If he hadn’t joined them they’d have won absolutely nothing and may have even been relegated by now
They aren’t special, they just had a special manager
He is solely responsible for them being as big as they are now and would have won the same trophies at any club he went to
If he hadn’t joined them they’d have won absolutely nothing and may have even been relegated by now
They aren’t special, they just had a special manager
It's before my time but I always thought they were a big underachieving club. Lots of people supported due to Munich. Sort of Liverpool pre recent success.
Champions League/European Cup and UEFA Cup are the only true measures of being a big club, not domestic titles.
So Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Nottingham Forest, Spurs and Aston Villa are the only true English big clubs.
Woolwich, Leicester, Man City, Blackburn etc will always be tier 2 until they do it on the big stage.
So Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Nottingham Forest, Spurs and Aston Villa are the only true English big clubs.
Woolwich, Leicester, Man City, Blackburn etc will always be tier 2 until they do it on the big stage.
I don't fully agree Busby made them what they were globally. They did fuck all after him until Ferguson came along.
Basically all their success has come under 2 managerial legends. It's almost as though they need that godfather type manager that comes along once every 40 years to be successful. Unfortunately for them Ten Haag isn't the next Ferguson and the game has evolved so much they are unlikely to find one.
They are to big to fail now, they cant keep chucking money at it and failing. They will rise again.
This is exactly what they've been doing in the last 10 years.
Richest clubs normally win things but when there's a host of other rich clubs in the equation the chances are the odds decrease significantly.
Man u are city spending not Liverpool or Chelsea. Unless a huge change in economics of football they will be winning things imo
Yep, eventually they'll get it right with the manager (who knows, it might be Ten Haag..) and the financial muscle behind him will lead to success. Even under Jose + LVG they won a few trophies and under Ole finished 2nd and got to another final. So even their disastrous years are better than most clubs.
Again they've done that the last 10 years and got progressively worse.
Normally you can get away with that if you're the only team or perhaps 1 of 2 teams in the league with money but the Prem is a different beast now, not only do City have the money but the likes of them, Chelsea and Liverpool have the pull and the attractiveness.
And it's not just about how much you spend, it's how you spend it, look at how well Liverpool is ran compared to Utd it's night and day and this comes down to the structure of the club which is maintained by the owners...since the Glazers have come in they haven't given two shits about Utd, yes they provide cash to spend but the laissez faire culture they set in the club is toxic and rubs off on the staff and the players, until they sell up or leave then Utd won't go progress to anywhere near the heights of where they were before.
They've been shit for 10 years and still top revenue generater, if it looked like that was dropping off ild be with you. While they are making that cash they can keep trying over and over, most other clubs have one chance perhaps 2
Yes...keep trying over and over like they have done in the last 10 years...
Yes keep trying like the last 10 years. Like they did between Busby and ferguson, they kept chucking money and eventually paid off
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