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Imagine 25 years ago a kid in his bedroom cutting out the then equivalent of Janssen's head from a paper and sticking it on the Spurs player's head of a poster they have in their bedroom dreaming of the signing being done and dusted there and then
In reality no kid was even that sad, people used to actually wait for things to happen, now middle aged men waste hours waiting for the transfer kettle to boil, desperately clicking links, what a sad existence!
Apart from that, hope everyone had a great Monday
:llorisserious:
In reality no kid was even that sad, people used to actually wait for things to happen, now middle aged men waste hours waiting for the transfer kettle to boil, desperately clicking links, what a sad existence!
Apart from that, hope everyone had a great Monday
:llorisserious:
To continue a the rant about boo boys, I think it's a great shame that Spurs fans already make jokes about Janssen. Those that do, should be ashamed of themselves. He is part of the squad now, and we all should be wanting him to do well. Repeating that a player that you have hardly seen is shit, crap etc is nothing short of short-sighted bollocks. He came from a different league and needs time.
Don't let that wish to "be right" get one over actually supporting the team and the players.
Don't let that wish to "be right" get one over actually supporting the team and the players.
Why isn't Vincent Janssen scoring?
Why Vincent Janssen isn't scoring goals
There's been a lot of talk in the media about Vincent Janssen's underwhelming start to life at Spurs, and although as a fanbase we've seen the great hold up work he does and are mostly preaching patience, a grand total of two goals from the penalty spot in his first couple of months at the club aren't going to make the Soldado comparisons go away (and nor am I).
One common explanation you hear is that he's doing too much work in the wrong part of the pitch. That he should be getting in the box rather than helping out on the wing. A look at yesterday's passing map could back this up. These are the passes to Janssen, i.e. the end of every yellow arrow is where he received the ball:
Notice all the times he's helping out on the left, and the big empty space in the middle where you'd typically want your centre forward to be?
However, these passing maps only show on-ball actions, and watching last night's game it became apparent that the cause and effect of this theory is mixed up. Janssen moves out wide to get involved in the game, because when he's in the middle, making the runs we want him to make, he's not going to end up with a little yellow arrow.
In that clip there were two clear chances to play him through, first it went wide and then much to Janssen's dismay Nkoudou took a speculative shot rather than make the easy pass.
Want some more examples from yesterday? There were plenty. Watch Janssen's positioning and body language in the following instances. I haven't highlighted him but to help you out, he's the one on the shoulder of the last man, pointing where he wants the ball to be played:
Our game plan does not seem to be to look for Janssen early but instead to spread the ball wide and try to hit him with a cross.
To make this point more clearly, here is that passing map again but only showing balls he received from the attacking band - that's Onomah, Carroll, Nkoudou, Lamela and Harrison:
He received more balls from Davies than from all of them put together.
It isn't just our youth-teamers who are guilty of this. Looking at WhoScored stats for the Premier League, only three Spurs players have played a successful through ball this season. One is Janssen himself, and another is Son, who at the moment seems to be playing as an alternative rather than a compliment to Janssen. (The other is Alli, who also sat out yesterday's game).
If we're moving forwards the AMs always look to play the ball wide, and if Janssen wants to get involved then his best bet is to move out there to receive it. Last night only one cross from Trippier found Janssen in the box, similarly Walker and Rose do provide excellent attacking width but neither is noted for their crossing ability, so it's no surprise that our attack seems stodgy at the moment.
The Soldado comparison may be unpopular but when he first arrived he was making futile runs behind the defence too, until he decided it wasn't worth it and altered his game to get more involved. Soldado might not have been successful in England but his time here helped him transition from one of the leading scorers in Spain, to one of the leading creators there three years later.
It is surely far more beneficial to alter our team plan slightly this time than for Janssen to similarly alter his game. Spurs should look to vary their attack with more quick balls through the middle, and hopefully once this happens Janssen will be able to add goals to his otherwise excellent play.
Shocking stat.
Why Vincent Janssen isn't scoring goals
There's been a lot of talk in the media about Vincent Janssen's underwhelming start to life at Spurs, and although as a fanbase we've seen the great hold up work he does and are mostly preaching patience, a grand total of two goals from the penalty spot in his first couple of months at the club aren't going to make the Soldado comparisons go away (and nor am I).
One common explanation you hear is that he's doing too much work in the wrong part of the pitch. That he should be getting in the box rather than helping out on the wing. A look at yesterday's passing map could back this up. These are the passes to Janssen, i.e. the end of every yellow arrow is where he received the ball:
Notice all the times he's helping out on the left, and the big empty space in the middle where you'd typically want your centre forward to be?
However, these passing maps only show on-ball actions, and watching last night's game it became apparent that the cause and effect of this theory is mixed up. Janssen moves out wide to get involved in the game, because when he's in the middle, making the runs we want him to make, he's not going to end up with a little yellow arrow.
In that clip there were two clear chances to play him through, first it went wide and then much to Janssen's dismay Nkoudou took a speculative shot rather than make the easy pass.
Want some more examples from yesterday? There were plenty. Watch Janssen's positioning and body language in the following instances. I haven't highlighted him but to help you out, he's the one on the shoulder of the last man, pointing where he wants the ball to be played:
Our game plan does not seem to be to look for Janssen early but instead to spread the ball wide and try to hit him with a cross.
To make this point more clearly, here is that passing map again but only showing balls he received from the attacking band - that's Onomah, Carroll, Nkoudou, Lamela and Harrison:
He received more balls from Davies than from all of them put together.
It isn't just our youth-teamers who are guilty of this. Looking at WhoScored stats for the Premier League, only three Spurs players have played a successful through ball this season. One is Janssen himself, and another is Son, who at the moment seems to be playing as an alternative rather than a compliment to Janssen. (The other is Alli, who also sat out yesterday's game).
If we're moving forwards the AMs always look to play the ball wide, and if Janssen wants to get involved then his best bet is to move out there to receive it. Last night only one cross from Trippier found Janssen in the box, similarly Walker and Rose do provide excellent attacking width but neither is noted for their crossing ability, so it's no surprise that our attack seems stodgy at the moment.
The Soldado comparison may be unpopular but when he first arrived he was making futile runs behind the defence too, until he decided it wasn't worth it and altered his game to get more involved. Soldado might not have been successful in England but his time here helped him transition from one of the leading scorers in Spain, to one of the leading creators there three years later.
It is surely far more beneficial to alter our team plan slightly this time than for Janssen to similarly alter his game. Spurs should look to vary their attack with more quick balls through the middle, and hopefully once this happens Janssen will be able to add goals to his otherwise excellent play.
Shocking stat.
I still maintain Vinny is decent and feel insulted on his behalf that he has suffered the indignity of being compared to Altidore.
I will never, ever understand the ideology of football managers......there times we were 4-1, 4-0, 3-0 up and Vinny would get between 3 and 10 minutes.
What is the point in kicking a players self belief in the face for no reason?
Many a game he could have got at least 30 minutes.....and when we need a goal he gets brought in injury time.
Good luck Vince
What is the point in kicking a players self belief in the face for no reason?
Many a game he could have got at least 30 minutes.....and when we need a goal he gets brought in injury time.
Good luck Vince
Done-fucking-deal, boys! 
And the forward has confirmed that negotiations between the two sides are at an advanced stage and says he is looking forward to working with Mauricio Pochettino and star striker Kane.
"I won't train with AZ any more," he told Algemeen Dagblad. "The clubs are now really close to an agreement. I will go home and wait for the phone call to go.
"I'm glad that it is almost complete. For me it was clear from the beginning that I wanted to go to Spurs. The competition appeals to me and the plan of the coach is similar to the plan that AZ boss John van den Brom shared with me a year ago at AZ.
"It is a beautiful club with a fantastic stadium and heaps of potential. Anyone in my shoes would take this step.
"Harry Kane? People can say what they want but I'm not afraid of anybody. He is a great striker but we will see how it goes. We can complement each other, I think I can learn a lot from him."
"I won't train with AZ any more," he told Algemeen Dagblad. "The clubs are now really close to an agreement. I will go home and wait for the phone call to go.
"I'm glad that it is almost complete. For me it was clear from the beginning that I wanted to go to Spurs. The competition appeals to me and the plan of the coach is similar to the plan that AZ boss John van den Brom shared with me a year ago at AZ.
"It is a beautiful club with a fantastic stadium and heaps of potential. Anyone in my shoes would take this step.
"Harry Kane? People can say what they want but I'm not afraid of anybody. He is a great striker but we will see how it goes. We can complement each other, I think I can learn a lot from him."
Hasn't score yet. Get rid
As Vincent prepares to hit the magic 50 pages Götze is stuck on page 1.
Dream on Fat Boy, no Spurs for you.
Dream on Fat Boy, no Spurs for you.
Mark Viduka was taking a corner for Celtic against Kilmarnock and a Killie fan shouted "why are you such a fat cunt Viduka?!?"
The time honoured response of "every time I fuck your wife, she's makes me a sandwich" was perfect.
The time honoured response of "every time I fuck your wife, she's makes me a sandwich" was perfect.
What the fuck has this thread become? He's a 22 year old backup player who's been in England for two months!? Laughable, put the plastics in the bin, if after 2 seasons he flops fair enough but writing him off after 2 months doesn't sit well with me. Entitled cunts pretending to be Spurs fans - bring back Pav, that will silence the new plastics.
If Harry wasn't injured and hadn't scored in a few games you'd pine for Janssen - pathetic.
If Harry wasn't injured and hadn't scored in a few games you'd pine for Janssen - pathetic.
Credit to him, after being dropped and the subject of media crap, wins a penalty at 2-1 down and demands that he takes it and scores. Great attitude.