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THST attacked Daniel Levy earlier this month in an open letter that put their self-importance as a committee of wankers before the harmony of our club.
Despite the malicious actions of THST, our team has continued to build on the success of recent seasons.
Despite the malicious actions of THST, our team has continued to build on the success of recent seasons.
I don't think the trust help matters, it always seems like they are there to stir up discontent when the players need our support.
Running a football club is never going to be easy, every decision you make will piss someone off and every fan feels like the club is 'theirs' to some extent.
I really don't like the idea of any fan group having a seat on the board let alone a controlling interest, they will never make the tough/unpopular decisions that allow you to move forwards.
Running a football club is never going to be easy, every decision you make will piss someone off and every fan feels like the club is 'theirs' to some extent.
I really don't like the idea of any fan group having a seat on the board let alone a controlling interest, they will never make the tough/unpopular decisions that allow you to move forwards.
This x 1,000,000
I live in SW London now and am quite into the non league scene. AFC are cunts of the highest order. Hypocritical twats. Did a deal with Chelsea that made Kingstonian homeless. Another non league club in our area destroyed.
Now the club that gave AFC a home have been kicked out and are playing at Corinthian Casuals. AFC are heading to a new stadium in Plough Lane and are moving up the leagues. They’ve done well out of the MK situation with the old PL club (which was rapidly going bust) longer term, partly due to the exaggerated romanticism of their plight.
The Trust are a shambles. 1882 could have been a real, positive alternative but that sadly died a few years ago too. All I see from THST is negativity about anything we try and do as we progress through this period that we need to get us to the next level.
I’ll be going to MK. Should be an entertaining and unusual evening. Fuck the haters. Fuck the Trust. We’re going places with or without their whinging and whining. COYS.
Christ, are people still banging the Levy’s a twat drum?
He has done so much for this football club. His aim is sustainability within the top four and he’s achieving it through organic growth. Not through pissing money down the drain on overrated players season after season that don’t come close to representing good value for money.
We have the best training facilities in the league by a mile, we’ll have the best stadium by a mile, the best manager in the league by a mile and as seen last night again against United, a team that can make anyone look like an U18s girls 2nd team.
He’s the best man for the job and deserves respect. The THST need to learn to shut their mouths and show some respect to the man that has put us where we are today, in an incredibly strong position.
He has done so much for this football club. His aim is sustainability within the top four and he’s achieving it through organic growth. Not through pissing money down the drain on overrated players season after season that don’t come close to representing good value for money.
We have the best training facilities in the league by a mile, we’ll have the best stadium by a mile, the best manager in the league by a mile and as seen last night again against United, a team that can make anyone look like an U18s girls 2nd team.
He’s the best man for the job and deserves respect. The THST need to learn to shut their mouths and show some respect to the man that has put us where we are today, in an incredibly strong position.
Regards to the letter itself, firstly, I thought it was incredibly poorly worded and the idea that it was meant to represent me as a fan I found embarrassing.
As to the actual content, it was whingy and irrelevant.... “And [sic] to ask for a full and believable explanation of how this transfer window has played out.”
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Guido 🇺🇦
previously posted above, if they want to take issue with the new pricing strategy, keep it on topic and have an actual point, instead of bitching and griping. Why not focus attention on real questions such as:- Why were so few senior and family tickets allocated?
- How did so much of the “affordable” south stand end up being allocated to 1882?
- With the addition of more than 500,000 saleable tickets over the course of a season, how can they justify such steep price rises?
Whilst I’m sure THFC would counter that last question with “these are different products (old stadium experience vs new)”, our reply should simply be that fans are still fans and we didn’t ask for cheese tunnels or Michelin starred restaurants and shouldn’t be asked to fund those features which are completely unattainable to us.
Further, with a near neutral net spend in player acquisitions since redevelopment began, much of the stadium should already be paid for... along with naming rights, NFL affiliation and seemingly a sponsor for every fixture, fitting and service installed within the stadium, the argument that “this all needs to be paid for” should be practically moot by now.
The commercialisation of every facet of not only the stadium, but the entire surrounding area, through the delivery of the Northumberland Development Project, will eventually lead to huge net gains for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club and, in turn, ENIC. Seeing as we are seemingly being asked to fund all of these additional projects, will ENIC then begin to pass some of this gain back to normal fans through subsidising ticket prices?
...those are some of the things I would like to see the supporters trust start thinking about addressing, instead of pissing and moaning about not having new toys.
I admire all of your sentiment but I think you’re being generous. They are the THST. They’re supposed to represent the balanced views of fans. But they don’t. Their statements on Twitter are “I - I - I” not “the views of Tottenham fans are...”. It’s personal agendas all the time. It’s not difficult to give the balanced view of supporters. They’re just shit at it. They love their privileged position and they’re abusing it for agendas against the club when we need to pull together and the support the clear progress of our club. It creates divisions and gives fuel to the anti Spurs media. Fuck then.
Some fair points on this thread.
To be fair to the Trust, I don't think their job is that easy. I would have guessed that a higher proportion of Spurs fans would have been against playing at MK Dons. They have to be forever guessing what the majority of fans think which ain't as easy as all that. And their views will be clouded by the fact that the people they mix with are likely to be more football-activist types who care more about these issues than the average fan. It's easy to be clouded by the people you are mates with and to think they represent the majority, for instance with Stratford most people I knew were dead against, but actually quite a lot of Spurs fans were indifferent or even pro the move (many won't admit that now).
And yes, there's no doubt an element of them using their position to further personal causes. It's perhaps wrong, but it's politics and it happens. You can try and say the Trust should not be political, but to me that's impossible because their very nature is a political one. It's hardly the end of the world that they used their mouthpiece to call for a boycott against MK Dons.
I stand by my view that they may not do everything perfectly, and they will always piss off some people (in this case, the majority) but at least they are doing something, and they have done a lot of good work.
As for MK Dons, fair point about Dele (I know it would be pushing it to further my argument by saying that we ripped them off at £5m therefore we didn't help them at all by signing him!). Wimbledon may also be a horrible club but that doesn't change my views on MK Dons.
I still think we should have flipped the tie. I don't think playing at a half-empty soulless arena will help the club progress. It won't have any of the advantages that home advantage bring. It's not familiar for the players, and our support would have been louder at Watford. Watford will probably outsing us at MK. If we'd played it at Watford our usual away support, me included, would have turned out; I don't think that many of them will for this. But I appreciate the club's reasoning for not flipping it, so fair enough.
If you hadn't opened your post with the "Daniel Levy arse kissing brigade" like a child...I'd have bothered to read the rest of your post.
Grow up
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I know his a Club legend, and I genuinely view him as such, amid that word lorded around so frivolously, but he's become a cheerleader and I fucking hate that. He doesn't need to do it, I feel he does it for retweets and popularity. For me, he just looks a dick. Especially slagging off the media for something said on the radio, he should take a leaf out of King's book and rise above it and don't get sucked into the baiting. It looks ridiculous.
I don't think the club should do away with him, just tell him to act a bit more statesman like, have a bit of class. Be more like Perryman and King, proper classy leaders.
If you don't like THST's approach, either become a member and make your opinions known, or, better still, stand for election to the board. It sounds like the existing board members would happily make way for anyone willing to volunteer their time. Give it a go and create the supporters trust that you want.
Erm I hate to break this to you but...
The more criticism I read of THST, the more I realise that people make up their minds without really knowing the facts. Why don't take some time and actually read up on how they operate?
I'm very much pro Levy and really appreciate the work that has been done to take us forward for the past 16 years, but I also share the concerns that THST are raising with the club.
10-15 years ago THST was a lot more "friendly" with the club than they are now. At that time hardly anyone gave a fuck about them and their membership was something like 500 members. They are a lot more proactive these days, and their membership is therefore growing rapidly.
At the end of the day if you disagree, you should get involved. No one is stopping you
I'm very much pro Levy and really appreciate the work that has been done to take us forward for the past 16 years, but I also share the concerns that THST are raising with the club.
10-15 years ago THST was a lot more "friendly" with the club than they are now. At that time hardly anyone gave a fuck about them and their membership was something like 500 members. They are a lot more proactive these days, and their membership is therefore growing rapidly.
At the end of the day if you disagree, you should get involved. No one is stopping you
Have any of you who have such a bad opinion of the THST board ever listened to any of the podcasts that they've featured on? If not then I suggest you do, and hopefully you'll get an understanding of just how much they do in their own time to help supporters.
Gone one better, met them in person. Still think they are self-important numpties.
They tried to organise putting out flags for a cup semi a few years ago and I've seen first hand the utter shambles they are. Not only did they make an absolute hash of arranging it, they then all sat down and watched the volunteers do the work while they took all the credit..... It's their M.O.
It's cute that they haven't yet realised that they are Levy's pet project, they think that going into his office for a chat once a quarter and eating Jammie Dodgers (Tesco's own cos Levy ain't no mug) makes them the special ones, I bet he laughs his arse off once they leave.
They also seem to have the staff turnover of a communist regime, self-preservation is the order of the day.
But nah i don't really care, I'm ambivalent towards them as you can tell.
