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has just disagreed with something i said... i apologise to everyone now if our planet suddenly gets blown up. #Nowwitnessthefirepowerofthisfullyarmedandoperationalbattlestation
I don't agree with that either.
He just played crash-boom-bang football and had the luck of the gods to have King, Modric, Bale and VdV, all in the very same team.
It's not a question of Harry being the best modern day manager - he just happened to get the best modern day Spurs squad.
On a side note - if there is one thing I bitterly begrudge AVB doing, then it's alienating and then discarding VdV as swiftly. He really should know better, seeing as we had just lost King for good and then Modric to the HalaWankers.
So you are questioning the credibility of "so called supporters" who claim AVB was good because of points tally, when your very thread starter was based on Sherwoods points tally?
All too come to the conclusion that Harry was in fact the right manager.
Jesus. Seriously, where was everyone hiding in Harrys final half season as manager where we bottled every single important game we got near and played awful, worm-spined football? The revisionism.
Tarkin's the one you have to look out for.
Which returns us to the original point:
Sherwood clearly has a future in football, he just is nowhere near to manage Premier League, let alone so at Spurs. He should, and I believe, will go to the Football League to get some proper experience. And, presumably, his coaching badges. God knows what he has been doing the last 10 years or so since quitting, if he claims he always wanted to manage?
So what? When he was sacked we still had about 20 games to go and were in all three cup tournaments still. Our relative points distance to 4th was 6 pts IIRC, while we were a whole lot closer to first than now.
It appears there is this myth with single-file benchmarks in Sherwoods favour, which keep popping up, depending on which is the most convenient; points-from-games, table-from-date, etc.
If you want to believe that 4 pts off with 2 games to go is better than 6 pts with 20-ish games to go, so be it. But you won't ever seeing me agree to it.
Haha. Just can't agree with our players being as good as the other teams in the top 4. We've messed up massively with who we brought in. They don't work as a team at all. Soldado, Chadli and Capoue are all lost causes for me. We've probably alienated Lamela to the point where he'll flop now regardless of how talented he is. The only decent players left are Paulinho (who's been poor this season), Eriksen and Chiriches.
We'll probably finish 7 points off the top 4 and that's regression unfortunately. This was our best chance to get into the top 4 and we bottled it. Man Utd will spend £150m+ in the summer with Van Gaal and get back into the top 4. Liverpool will keep Suarez and build on a great season for them. City and Chelsea are going to spend regardless. Woolwich will probably spend big as well with all the money they have sloshing about.
It's easy to say that "We could've drawn this match and won the other and we'd be in the top 4". But the fact is we didn't and that's because we always bottle it when it matters. Just distraught at how we've messed it up this season.
That's it for me. How we messed it up. Tragic and toe-cringing.
So what your saying is... we need a manager thats gonna get the best out of the squad? is that not my original point?
And the bit I've bolded.. thats just bullshit. You're just spouting cliches. And Lamela has been injured.
I swear, sometimes its like people forget, its not 11 players that win titles and trophies. Its a squad of 20-25 players, and a manager. And a chairman tbh.
How can you say Lamela has been alienated to the point he'll flop, and then say Capoue and chadli are "lost causes"
thats hypocrisy if ever I've heard it. Why don't you just get behind the team/players wearing our shirt. They wouldn't be here, or in the squad, or in the team, if people didn't think they could do a job.
Wtf does a sith know about football anyway.
We needed a decent manager anyway but he won't get the funds to actually change this team.
Those three players I mentioned are bang average. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that. Lamela has been injured the entire season of course. Silly me. Hasn't been treated badly at all.
The problem is that our first XI is full of squad players. Players that aren't good enough for a top 4 team but can be effective from the bench or against dead beat teams.
I can say what I want. We've alienated our most talented player. And my criticism of other players is completely fair. It's not like they check these forums and are hurt by my opinions. Get a grip.
Get behind the team? I thought we were intelligently discussing what's wrong with our team and how we should improve as well as summarising this season. I didn't know this was a thread questioning our support.
I disagree with you so lets just end it there.
That is such a cop out answer but fine...
Not really. My views are plastered all over this website.
I'm almost willing to forget anything that happened this season if we stuff Spam next week..
i'll forget about the rest of the season until I come back on here when* I get home afterwards.
if*
Not so easy for Man U to coordinate a summer transfer policy with Van Gaal's mind on other things (assuming he goes there). Suarez has demanded that he should be allowed to talk to Real, and will almost certainly leave LFC if they don't win the title. City and the chavs no change there, and woolwich, well, big spending is no guarantee of decent acquisitions where Wenger is concerned. It's not his forte.
It's not easy but they will do it considering the fan reaction. They already have Luke Shaw and Carvalho signed according to the media. They're very interested in the likes of Kroos, Reus etc. and will get their men because they have so much money to spend.
Suarez won't leave Liverpool. He's secured CL football with them and Madrid won't be able to afford the fee Liverpool will ask. Don't get your hopes up. Liverpool are going to be even more dangerous next season.
Wenger has always spent big until them lot moved to the Emirates. It's all relative. They spent £10m on Henry when he was struggling in Serie A. They spent £42m on Özil and have improved because of his addition. They led the league for most of it and are in the final of the FA cup. Wenger knows how to spend big money. It is naive to think he can't.
We've got to stop being so bias and accept that there has been a massive cock up with recruitments. None of them work properly in a team. We need a new manager who will actually get a proper system in place utilising our better players and improving positions like central midfield, striker and left back in my opinion.
I hope Suarez'll leave regardless - not for any other reason than in the hope people will get over the "Bale/Suarez" comparison. If Real come knocking and Liverpool manage to keep him then it'll be different, but I can't see it myself - he's 28 next season, that's near the pinnacle of Real wanting to be interested in him as £30m is the ceiling for a striker approaching 30 imo (should he stay at pool next season and look for a move near his 29th year)