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Of course we fucking would.

Just recreate the City season where they won the league with the last kick of the game. Replace the Etihad with the new stadium. Mancini with Poch and Aguero with Kaaaaaaaaane.

And you'd have every person in this thread fucking cheering, crying and loving every single moment of it.

They would have everything they moan about not having now. Media acceptance, trophies, consistency, you name it.

You can still do things the right way with Arab money. I'd like to think Poch is a man of principles and with more money and freedom, he'd just buy young players as well as better players we need as opposed to just signing every world class player out there.
 
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Thing is guido, Tomo wrote that we are owned by a businessman who sees us purely as a long term investment. With which I agreed.
You then suggested that 99% of clubs have always been run that way and why do I complain.
Well football clubs havent always been run that way. They have traditionally been run as a sustainable business whos main objective is success on the pitch, not a long term profit yielding asett

For a large period of football history there was a maximum wage primarily enforced so the owners could keep all the money.
 
Thing is guido, Tomo wrote that we are owned by a businessman whos only goal is long term capitol gain. With which I agreed.
You then suggested that 99% of clubs have always been run that way and why do I complain.
Well football clubs havent always been run that way. They have traditionally been run as a sustainable business whos main objective is success on the pitch, not a long term profit yielding asett
You couldn’t be more wrong, the moment a football club becomes professional it’s in it to make money. The owners, be they fans or not, all use the club to further their own personal wealth be that directly from the clubs revenue or boosting their existing businesses profile as a result of owning the club or both. This can be traced as far back as the day we and all clubs became professional in 1800’s, all owned by wealthy local businessmen all with an angle. With the exception of PSG, City and Chelsea this remains the case in all non-fan owned clubs today, even the fan owned clubs the lines are blurred.
 
You couldn’t be more wrong, the moment a football club becomes professional it’s in it to make money. The owners, be they fans or not, all use the club to further their own personal wealth be that directly from the clubs revenue or boosting their existing businesses profile as a result of owning the club or both.
I see. So you're saying 99% of football clubs have, through history, been run as a means to further the owners personal wealth and business profile. And you're more than happy to see our club continue with this bold and noble tradition. I get it:freund:
 
He said that several years ago. Things change. And let’s say he was lying. So what? It’s not exactly a good idea to publicly state that we have financial restrictions when in the business of buying and selling players.
There’s no point arguing with John. He is a spoilt brat, more more more is all you ever get from him. If you disagree it’s because you have a losers mentality. Because all winners always continually bitch and moan about how shit their team are
 
way I am starting to look at it is this, if Poch really wants to stay and build at least for the next 5 year then we have to go all out Althetico or Dortmund. If players want to leave it’s hard to stop but we have to buy 2-4 top potential future world class young players each season to get the quality and the depth.

Only problem with this approach is it takes min 3-5 years to work. We can probably start with the Sessegnon brothers and hopefully a lot more. The likes of City and United buy the finished product, we have to buy before they get that way.

Davison Sanchez was a real statement of this but we probably need 3 of those type of signings a season. Otherwise I am struggling to think how we can compete with the resources the others have.

Any ideas?
 
Apparently Mark Zuckenburg from Facebook might want to buy spurs, is that allowed? :levyeyes:

On a serious not though I think it will be the end of football that we all love, but maybe once every club is owned by a billionaire the playing field will be levelled again.
 
This thread got me thinking if I took all the bitcoin I had when they first came out and never spent them on the dark web for various illegal items, I would have had enough money to buy spurs, and bring bale and Modric back in Jan :pochfacepalm:
 
In regards to the original question (sorry GaulPascoigne for wondering off) I guess I would still follow Spurs. Problem it’s like a heroin fix, hard to withdraw but the soul would definitely be taken out of the club.

We would have vast new numbers of glory hunting fans, probably a DT and Robbie channel of our own, Spurs would be marketed as the cockerel team world wide to billions, there will be lots of Hotspur franchises in every continent other than Antarctica. Neymar would come for £300 million and we would get round FFP as Dave company (owned by some dodgy government) sponsors us for £6 billion.

Still I would find it difficult not to follow my club, the paid for titles wouldn’t impress me but it would be funny watching Woolwich and Chelsea fans going to meltdown at our paid for success. So I guess Schadenfreude would be the only joy.
 
Slightly off topic, but something that's starting to annoy me more than it should is how we waste free kicks. I don't so much mean the ones 25 yards out around the penalty box, with a wall and so on (although those aren't anything to write home about) but the ones 40-odd yards from goal.

Invariably we play a 5-yard horizontal pass to a nearby player and all thats gained is that the defending team have had time to regroup. It happened again and again yesterday and was so poorly executed once that a City player managed to half block the pass and we lost possession. He wasn't anything like 10 yards from the ball, and we complained, but it was our fault for our haste and not being aware where their players were.

I'm not saying we have to hoof it to the big lad up top 1970s-style every time but at least use the ball more creatively, take advantage of the situation to pressurise the defence or shift the focus of the attack or slip a disguised pass down the wing.
 
You couldn’t be more wrong, the moment a football club becomes professional it’s in it to make money. The owners, be they fans or not, all use the club to further their own personal wealth be that directly from the clubs revenue or boosting their existing businesses profile as a result of owning the club or both. This can be traced as far back as the day we and all clubs became professional in 1800’s, all owned by wealthy local businessmen all with an angle. With the exception of PSG, City and Chelsea this remains the case in all non-fan owned clubs today, even the fan owned clubs the lines are blurred.
Also in some cases there was civic pride . Directors tended to be local "black and white days " and there was a kudos if your team did well
Of course they must have had their hands in the treacle pud but it was different hence the variety of League winners , cup winners , Euro etc. Take the swinging 60s , far better than today kleptocracys.
 
Apparently Mark Zuckenburg from Facebook might want to buy spurs, is that allowed? :levyeyes:

On a serious not though I think it will be the end of football that we all love, but maybe once every club is owned by a billionaire the playing field will be levelled again.

That’s how I see it. Any pleasure I’d take from us simply blowing any competition out of the water like the Sheik Mansour team would be short-lived. However, if we were part of a number of mega rich clubs in the Premier League, and could afford to compete and keep the best players, I’d be happy with that. Less happy if the money was tainted though.

The ideal scenario is that most clubs would have similar resources, and success would come down to who was able to assemble the best playing and coaching squads.

As it is now, we might as well just bypass the trouble of playing games and simply award trophies to whoever has the biggest bank balance. The Sheik Mansour team haven’t won a thing. They’ve just bought trophies. Utterly meaningless and their fans should be embarrassed celebrating shooting ducks in a barrel.
 
Every club broke their transfer record last summer. Some twice over. Even the likes of Burnley, Huddersfield, Palace and so on.
And we simply reinvested the Walker (arab) money.
So, whats your point?


I keep reading points of yours which are irrelivant.

You have to keep up with the rest otherwise you rot in the lower half. You spend the money you have. Some teams have to spend it wisely as us , others flippantly. We all want to be the best and the richest, its how you get there.

I feel you seek attention and comment to get your fill.
 
There is a much longer arc, which is that the money that PSG, Man City and Chelsea have had lavished on them is finite, it will run out. Manchester United were screwed by the Glazers but the size of the support was so huge the club paid for itself and could/still can pay any money they want to buy a player.

It is better to be a self made millionaire, than the undeserving child of a billionaire. It's not about getting everything you want, if you want football to mirror real life, then you've picked the wrong team.

I started watching non league with my dad, we have seen so many teams come, go and follow the same pattern ad infinitum. At the moment it's Billericay paying way more than they could ever sustainably afford, they will pay great football, then their owner will get bored, they won't be able to sustain the legacy of high wages, the whole thing will collapse and the team will again find it's natural level. Maybe grass roots football is more closely wedded to the modern game than we'd care to admit, oh and if you think Billericay is a one off, let me give you some other name checks of the past, Rushden & Diamonds, Hornchurch, Canvey Island and there are more.. The truth is when you build a club on financial doping at some point it will all go to shit.

You can't just spend your way out of problems, it doesn't work in the real world, why should it work in football?
 
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