That is so nonsensical.
But we can reach finals and seni-finals.
And 4 people agreed with you.
Nothing like bias and illogic.
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That is so nonsensical.
But we can reach finals and seni-finals.
And 4 people agreed with you.
Nothing like bias and illogic.
FA or league, yes. At some point. If Ten Hag comes in and gets us up to Poch levels of fitness then no reason not to achieve this sooner rather than later.
PL? Unless a stupidly rich, generous person with an ego that demands nothing less than top spot takes over then no. Levy and ENIC have already made it clear they're fine with top 4.
I don't believe in curses or any of that voodoo hoodoo nonsense. Recent events have finally swung me round to believing that we're not achieving largely because our owners lack genuine ambition beyond the cold world of business. They pasted To Dare is to Do all over the place without actually believing it. While they're in charge, we wont break through the glass ceiling.
PL? Unless a stupidly rich, generous person with an ego that demands nothing less than top spot takes over then no. Levy and ENIC have already made it clear they're fine with top 4.
I don't believe in curses or any of that voodoo hoodoo nonsense. Recent events have finally swung me round to believing that we're not achieving largely because our owners lack genuine ambition beyond the cold world of business. They pasted To Dare is to Do all over the place without actually believing it. While they're in charge, we wont break through the glass ceiling.
To be fair noone has rated the league cup for decades but our exits have been generally embarrassing in it for a long time. Same as FA Cup. And Europa League.
Redknapp chucking that Portsmouth cup semi final to focus on Top 4 after taking replays to beat all of Leeds, Bolton and Fulham sums it up for me. Following year he just chucked a 4-0 surrender into Fulham early doors, unwelcome distraction was the message. Sent a third team out to Ukraine to play in a knock out round of the UEFA Cup, who wants to progress in that hey?
Pochettino giving less than zero fucks when we played Gent in the UEFA Cup. Complete apathy of home exits against Palace and Leicester as two examples.
Can't be bothered to give more examples but its tough to recall the last time we beat a decent team in a league/fa cup/Europa competition (at any stage). Only one I can think of really is beating Woolwich in the league cup three years back where Alli scored. Not even sure how full strength Woolwich were that day.
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We don't deserve to win another trophy unless an oil rich billionaire buys the club, pumps hundreds of millions in to players, and start paying disproportionate salaries.
Only then could we ever be worthy of winning another trophy.
Only then could we ever be worthy of winning another trophy.
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Nah - we'll go out after the group stages.
Lucky socks?
Who will we play and what will be the score (I think I can guess that)? I’d like to know if it’s worth staying alive for. I probably won’t bother if it’s pens after a 0-0 draw or a bye due to Covid-36.
We did and that was with a reserve team.... and Dier taking shit breaks during the match.
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Although wasn't it Norwich knocking us out the cup on pens that triggered Dier to rush up the stands to beat up a fan?
He's lucky people don't charge at him every time he offends someone.
No.
Even if we got the easiest possible draw in FA cup semi-final, we failed to get over the line.
Even if we got the easiest possible draw in FA cup semi-final, we failed to get over the line.
Okay, so we must assume that if either does occur you won't join in any celebrations other than of the celestial nature.
1 trophy in 20 years says otherwise. Even that one is the poor man's version of a cup.
Compare that to the other top 6 clubs. So calm down Daniel and face facts.
Your the one talking nonsense
Well your a right cheery sod!
Bizarre.
ESL Participation Shield.
I kind of agree to an extent, but then I think we might just be making excuses.
The counter arguments would be - in no particular order
* We are among the 10 "richest" clubs in the world the other clubs you mention aren't
* In the last few years we've had players like Kane, Son, Jan, Toby, Dembele, Walker, Rose, Eriksen. More than enough to win a trophy, those other clubs haven't had squads like that
* We've finished 2nd, 3rd and a handful of 4th's plus a few finals, semi-finals in that time you would expect something to stick
* Our prices are amongst the most expensive in the world, so I feel our fans can feel entitled to seeing us win one of these domestic cups at the very least given all of the above and the fact that the big guns don't prioritise them as much.
All told we should have won something in the last 10 years. The fact that we haven't and our team is only going to get worse/older from here I just feel like - If not then? when? and how?
