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Player Xavi Simons

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When he'd to come on he looked like a rabbit in the headlights, proper shitting it.

More than one occasion yesterday he noticeably slowed the momentum of a passage of play and either took too long to move the ball on, or passed it backwards completely stifling the play.

Obviously has talent, but so did Tanguy and look how that one worked out.
 
GinolasLeftFoot said:
The only thing wet here, is the swamp water between ya ears. And you still haven't learnt what context and nuance is.

There is a difference between, giving a player 10 games, and someone like Richi or Johnson, who has been here for years.

Learn the difference, learn some context, and learn some nuance.
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It was also fitting the goal was made by counterpressing, the only effective creative element on the pitch. And fitting in a poor Spurs performance that it should be Xavi Simons who made the vital mistake. Simons is a good passer, but was basically chased, harried and generally beaten up during his time on the pitch. There are games, styles, formations that will suit the very specific talents of Simons. Spurs offered none of those things here.

Barney Ronay
 
Football Chap said:
That was in the phase before though, we had already won the ball back by then.
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Yes one phase led to the other, and we were in a dangerous position with it...with their pressure which was still high.

Had Spence just got rid of it , like he should of, that next phase never happens .

He Had nowhere to go...prime Messi wasn't getting out of that.

It's all about decisions, and his stupid decision to not get rid of the ball sparked it all.
 
latman said:
Yes one phase led to the other, and we were in a dangerous position with it...with their pressure which was still high.

Had Spence just got rid of it , like he should of, that next phase never happens .

He Had nowhere to go...prime Messi wasn't getting out of that.

It's all about decisions, and his stupid decision to not get rid of the ball sparked it all.
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It had no real impact on the goal, we won it back before Xavi's error put us back under pressure. To say Djed was most culpable is ridiculous.
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
When he'd to come on he looked like a rabbit in the headlights, proper shitting it.

More than one occasion yesterday he noticeably slowed the momentum of a passage of play and either took too long to move the ball on, or passed it backwards completely stifling the play.

Obviously has talent, but so did Tanguy and look how that one worked out.
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I think Tanguy was just Lazy though, he certainly had the talent and could have succeeded here if he put the effort in
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
When he'd to come on he looked like a rabbit in the headlights, proper shitting it.

More than one occasion yesterday he noticeably slowed the momentum of a passage of play and either took too long to move the ball on, or passed it backwards completely stifling the play.

Obviously has talent, but so did Tanguy and look how that one worked out.
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Ironically an incredible lazy argument comparing him to Tanguy
 
Football Chap said:
It had no real impact on the goal, we won it back before Xavi's error put us back under pressure. To say Djed was most culpable is ridiculous.
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Yeah that's a crazy read. The second phase of play is what kills us. Poor pass followed by bad decision making. If you prevent players not playing with the ball or taking risks we really will become a truly ugly team. Its all handled by a simple swing of VDV boot.
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
When he'd to come on he looked like a rabbit in the headlights, proper shitting it.

More than one occasion yesterday he noticeably slowed the momentum of a passage of play and either took too long to move the ball on, or passed it backwards completely stifling the play.

Obviously has talent, but so did Tanguy and look how that one worked out.
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He’s a different case to Tanguy though, Tanguy was a fat lazy bastard who didn’t give a fuck. There’s nothing wrong with Xavi’s work ethic, he’s started badly, he knows he’s under a spotlight , and his confidence has just been absolutely battered.

Who knows, he might end up being as equally shite for us as Ndombele was, but I doubt it. I think he just needs a couple of good performances to get his confidence going again.

Watching him the other night, he’s getting the ball in dangerous areas and turning round and playing a safe pass, all that is is a a lack of confidence, he’s playing within himself.

He’s not a terrible player, he can’t be. Even at his young age, he’s had two seasons with absolutely terrific numbers. Bad players don’t do that.

I’m not absolving him of responsibility, he absolutely needs to get a grip, preferably soon. But the way Frank has us playing ain’t helping the boy either.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
Yeah that's a crazy read. The second phase of play is what kills us. Poor pass followed by bad decision making. If you prevent players not playing with the ball or taking risks we really will become a truly ugly team. Its all handled by a simple swing of VDV boot.
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Taking risks? Are you serious...that's not risk taking...it's stupidity. He was surrounded by three players, just get rid of it

Their high press was killing us at that point. There's a time to play though a press and there's a time to get rid.

It's down to simple decision making. Spence knew he as culpable, partially at least, judging by his reaction at the end
 
GinolasLeftFoot said:
No Djed show boating, no goal.
No VdV trying to take a touch and cover the ball, no goal.

Nah, it's all Xavi's fault,
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So the person who took the kick off is at fault, too?
What about the coach driver taking the wrong turn on the way to the ground?
We were in possession and Xavi's piss poor pass directly led to Chelsea scoring.
That is the end of the matter. I am not discussing it further with you.
 
Shadydan said:
It's a collective responsibility ffs, you can't just blame that goal on one person, that's not how football works
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Yeah its a collective responsibility. I'm not blaming it all on Spence, just feel that was the source, or starting point of the chain of errors leading up to it.

And even though we had won it back after Spence losing it, the high press was still engaged on us in a dangerous area..had he cleared it, the pressure is allievated completely

You have to smell danger as Roy Keane says

All three played a part.
 
THFCxDUFC said:
He’s a different case to Tanguy though, Tanguy was a fat lazy bastard who didn’t give a fuck. There’s nothing wrong with Xavi’s work ethic, he’s started badly, he knows he’s under a spotlight , and his confidence has just been absolutely battered.

Who knows, he might end up being as equally shite for us as Ndombele was, but I doubt it. I think he just needs a couple of good performances to get his confidence going again.

Watching him the other night, he’s getting the ball in dangerous areas and turning round and playing a safe pass, all that is is a a lack of confidence, he’s playing within himself.

He’s not a terrible player, he can’t be. Even at his young age, he’s had two seasons with absolutely terrific numbers. Bad players don’t do that.

I’m not absolving him of responsibility, he absolutely needs to get a grip, preferably soon. But the way Frank has us playing ain’t helping the boy either.
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They both came with massive fees, wages and expectations to the hardest league they'd ever played in, that's the comparison.

More talented players have failed in England, he needs to show far more, as simple as that.

At the weekend, he was the most creative player we had on the pitch supposedly and he clearly didn't fancy it at all.
 
Not going to slate a player that tries, and he can't suddenly become sh!t.

He is our player and until he shows dissent or disrespect or starts sitting on the sidelines with innumerable injuries or whatever, then fully behind Simons.

One or two consecutive good games, and hopefully he will fizz into action.

Having better forwards in front of him would also help, probably.
 
There's probably 2 options with him now.
Play him through it. Play him until he's settled no matter what.
Cut our losses and move him on ASAP.
Can't become a bit part player, it won't do him or us any good at all.

At the moment I'm in the first camp. Just keep playing him and hope it clicks.
 
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