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Player Xavi Simons

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tedesco23 said:
We’re not selling at a massive discount, and no one is going to pay remotely close to our foolish purchase price. My guess is we’ll be in desperate loan mode for years, paying a part of his salary in order for him to play in a league that is at his level.
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He’s not going to go anywhere to take a massive pay cut even if we found a buyer (which we won’t). If we don’t sell in January (which we won’t) then he’ll have three years or more before we can apply ‘World Cup this year’ leverage to get him out of the door.
I pointed out earlier that Sonny scored 4 goals in his 1st season and was seen as a lightweight pussy by half this board. Drop him and he certainly won’t make the adjustment. Play him and he’ll cost us — so maybe persist but against the European and lower-half teams for now(?). I honestly dunno.
 
JackJones’Locker said:
Given his fee and wages, he was meant to come in and be a playmaker from the get-go.
There was never any apprenticeship plan.
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We both know the club didn't seriously evaluate this- it was a desperation move coming on the heels of the Eze fumble/decoy, and Maddison's nightmare injury forcing their hand. He never was ready to be anything more than an apprentice in this league right now. People only pretended so, at best... My opinion was that he should not have started todays game, or even any of our very biggest matches at all. Hes not ready.
 
bk_spur said:
We both know the club didn't seriously evaluate this- it was a desperation move coming on the heels of the Eze fumble/decoy, and Maddison's nightmare injury forcing their hand. He never was ready to be anything more than an apprentice in this league right now. People only pretended so, at best... My opinion was that he should not have started todays game, or even any of our very biggest matches at all. Hes not ready.
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Several evaluators thought he was something of a luxury player who had a tendency to fade in and out of games. I don’t think that anyone thought that he, like Wirtz, would be this bad.
 
JackJones’Locker said:
I’m not saying get rid of him.
See my earlier note.
I’m saying for those that think we can just ship him back to the Bundesliga that it might not be so simple
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And right there’s the Gordian knot …. The same fucking Gordian knot in which we tie ourselves in every bad buy

We repeatedly buy bad players and put them on lucrative contracts

Clubs that can afford them, don’t want them because they’re not the required standard and clubs where they are can’t afford the wages…..divesting us of even the possibility to take the hit on the transfer fee

And so the doom loop persists with the byproduct being the preponderance of loans

We’ve all sat through this movie before

The worst thing about all this is it’s not even a three pipe problem, it’s easily solved …. Just buy good football players
 
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JackJones’Locker said:
He’s not going to go anywhere to take a massive pay cut even if we found a buyer (which we won’t). If we don’t sell in January (which we won’t) then he’ll have three years or more before we can apply ‘World Cup this year’ leverage to get him out of the door.
I pointed out earlier that Sonny scored 4 goals in his 1st season and was seen as a lightweight pussy by half this board. Drop him and he certainly won’t make the adjustment. Play him and he’ll cost us — so maybe persist but against the European and lower-half teams for now(?). I honestly dunno.
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This fellow is no Son.
 
He is frustrated by the managers tactics. We are not cohesive in attack, no creativity, no aggression in attempting to shoot on goal. Every week I'm more and more convinced this manager is not the right fit for this club. The players look confused and have no idea how to create and score goals

Simons would have loved Harry Redknapp as manager
 
bk_spur said:
He was not at all the reason we lost today. End of. Youve got some agenda against him goin on.
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Point me to where I said he's the reason we lost???

We lost because Romero is thick as pig shit and the ref was corrupt. That's why we lost but to say Gray was "fine" is hilarious beyond belief. He was absolutely positively shit and anyone with eyes (that isn't biased) would tell you this.

I was at the game, north level 4, the general consensus was that he went missing.
 
Managed to score in two games back to back in which we won, I think for me atleast it bought him some restpite from all the criticism he's been getting including the last game against Forrest but that red card was so bad because of the nervous way Liverpool were playing we were atleast 90% coming away with a point minimum! Looking back I'm sure we'd have won that game 11 v 11 but the red wrote it's own story.
 
He is young and it was a big ask for him to come to us and make a big difference we have too many mid level players for him to make the impact we hoped .If he was that good we wouldn't have him .
 
Overall, very poor half a season from Xavi. Now has 3 games to clear his head and come back with a bit more intent.

His wages are reported to be £190k per week, assuming that is correct we can’t expect to see him sold anywhere if he continues to flop. He will be out on loan for years to come.

So disappointed to be here again with a “big” signing. At this point I’d go as far as saying Bergwijn was a much better signing at the same stage.
 
LeeMcl said:
Overall, very poor half a season from Xavi. Now has 3 games to clear his head and come back with a bit more intent.

His wages are reported to be £190k per week, assuming that is correct we can’t expect to see him sold anywhere if he continues to flop. He will be out on loan for years to come.

So disappointed to be here again with a “big” signing. At this point I’d go as far as saying Bergwijn was a much better signing at the same stage.
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Bergwijn was decent for about 2-3 months then a bit of a non-entity apart from that Leicester game. Fingers crossed it's the opposite with Xavi.

Different types of wide forwards, but Bergwijn's mentality and lack of aggression remind me a bit of Odobert. Think with those guys their limitations seem mental more than anything - both just lack that aggression, arrogance and blind confidence you need to succeed at the top level. You could see Bergwijn's spirit fade with each missed chance until be basically became useless.

And to think we picked him over Bowen *sigh.
 
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