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Transfers Summer 2017 transfer window or, waiting for Godot
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Then why do the players keep signing new contracts every year if they are so mad about the wages?
Levy is just having one built as i type this, by his mate at Amstrad...........
We have just signed Cancelo, Seri, Barkley, Foryth and a goalie!My phone broke whilst i was in work today.
Can you fucking believe I actually thought I might have missed the transfer news
Game of Disagrees?
You're right yes but some of this is levy trying to bargain hunt. I appreciate we will not spend big money but if we identify a player and make an offer but they want a bit more then we either pay it or move on. Maybe we are moving on to another player but in the end it delays things and whoever we but will either be a panic buy or they will take ages to settle in. Get the business done early as long as the price is relatively good. Paying a tiny bit extra is worth it for that player being more settled when it all begins
Lot of suppositio there... Still, we got actual games to serve as a welcome distraction from all this guff now.
Why is it that transfer ITK is ridiculed, but there are a bunch of cunts who make statements about how we go about things, with the highest degree of arrogance.
"Players will leave because we don't pay enough"
Go on then, tell us what we pay. Like, what we actually pay - not what Neil Ashton thinks.
"Levy won't pay up"
Won't he? Or is it just spite from the media who struggle for information from us.
Etc etc. I think it's more plausible to know we might be signing a player than to know a fucking bean about the negotiations and/or player's contract.
"Players will leave because we don't pay enough"
Go on then, tell us what we pay. Like, what we actually pay - not what Neil Ashton thinks.
"Levy won't pay up"
Won't he? Or is it just spite from the media who struggle for information from us.
Etc etc. I think it's more plausible to know we might be signing a player than to know a fucking bean about the negotiations and/or player's contract.
I find it interesting that every summer, clubs "transfer windows" are judged time and again on the volume of their business, despite it being proven time and time and time and time and time (one more) and time again that this is not only a poor indicator of the club having a successful season but it has been proven more times than not to be a good indicator of a patchy to poor transitional type season.
It amazes me that even experienced journalists make the same mistakes in terms of analysis time and again and fans are overly praising of high-turnover windows and are often too critical of low activity windows particularly after successful seasons that should have indicated a lesser need to have a potentially destabilising affect on team performance and cohesion.
High-turnover windows are exciting for fans as they carry the hope that the new players will perform better than those that they replace. The reality is that invariably when the team is performing well that they won't.
Take our 13/14 window. At the time we were coming off a very solid season, a record points haul at the time and only narrowly missing out on a top 4 finish.
The transfer window then followed most fans view of a hugely successful window and I remember fans and pundits and journalists alike talking about us as title contenders despite the fact that we lost the attacking threat, pace and physical presence of Bale and Dempsey.
We had ploughed the money from the expected sale of Bale into a huge number of players that went onto produce very patchy inconsistent performances over the course of the season.
Most of the players we signed that summer have gone on to prove themselves as capable:
Eriksen and Lamela at Spurs;
Chadli and Capoue as solid PL performers;
Paulinho looks like he is joining Barcelona;
Churches is doing well in Serie A;
Soldado was never suited to PL football but continues to do well in Spain.
So the problem wasn't necessarily the wrong players or bad targets it was the volume and un-necessary butchering of a successful team. Yes, Bale wanted to move but like Modric we could have forced him to give us one more season at least. I believe it was the club's decision to cash in and spunk the money.
Despite this recent example I see so many on Spurs and other fans forums as well as journalists praising Everton's window again purely down to early business and high turnover of players.
Oh they're so good at getting business done people are saying. Well yeah, I'm sure if Levy offered £50m or £30m for average PL performers he could get lots of business done. They've also lost or are going to lose their two most coveted and talented players.
This is a team that has a very solid season last year and are just behind the fight for CL spaces. I look at their new squad and where before I saw two players I would like to sign for Spurs (assuming Barkley does come) I now see nobody.
This post doesn't mean I can't see the need for strengthening, it's just that we have a squad that finished a comfortable second and a large number of promising youth players coming through. We can afford to wait for our targets and not get ripped off.
And no I don't think injuries have changed anything. I'm very comfortable with Sissoko as a RWB to start the season as I suspect the coaching staff were hence why Walker was allowed to leave and we are taking our time over the replacement.
No need to slit wrists.
It amazes me that even experienced journalists make the same mistakes in terms of analysis time and again and fans are overly praising of high-turnover windows and are often too critical of low activity windows particularly after successful seasons that should have indicated a lesser need to have a potentially destabilising affect on team performance and cohesion.
High-turnover windows are exciting for fans as they carry the hope that the new players will perform better than those that they replace. The reality is that invariably when the team is performing well that they won't.
Take our 13/14 window. At the time we were coming off a very solid season, a record points haul at the time and only narrowly missing out on a top 4 finish.
The transfer window then followed most fans view of a hugely successful window and I remember fans and pundits and journalists alike talking about us as title contenders despite the fact that we lost the attacking threat, pace and physical presence of Bale and Dempsey.
We had ploughed the money from the expected sale of Bale into a huge number of players that went onto produce very patchy inconsistent performances over the course of the season.
Most of the players we signed that summer have gone on to prove themselves as capable:
Eriksen and Lamela at Spurs;
Chadli and Capoue as solid PL performers;
Paulinho looks like he is joining Barcelona;
Churches is doing well in Serie A;
Soldado was never suited to PL football but continues to do well in Spain.
So the problem wasn't necessarily the wrong players or bad targets it was the volume and un-necessary butchering of a successful team. Yes, Bale wanted to move but like Modric we could have forced him to give us one more season at least. I believe it was the club's decision to cash in and spunk the money.
Despite this recent example I see so many on Spurs and other fans forums as well as journalists praising Everton's window again purely down to early business and high turnover of players.
Oh they're so good at getting business done people are saying. Well yeah, I'm sure if Levy offered £50m or £30m for average PL performers he could get lots of business done. They've also lost or are going to lose their two most coveted and talented players.
This is a team that has a very solid season last year and are just behind the fight for CL spaces. I look at their new squad and where before I saw two players I would like to sign for Spurs (assuming Barkley does come) I now see nobody.
This post doesn't mean I can't see the need for strengthening, it's just that we have a squad that finished a comfortable second and a large number of promising youth players coming through. We can afford to wait for our targets and not get ripped off.
And no I don't think injuries have changed anything. I'm very comfortable with Sissoko as a RWB to start the season as I suspect the coaching staff were hence why Walker was allowed to leave and we are taking our time over the replacement.
No need to slit wrists.
There is a lot of shit written but on the other hand there is no smoke without fire.
The media have branded us tight skin flints for years and yes there is some truth . He has no evidence but just stating the obvious. While we act like prlmemark predators these stories will be around forever. Rinse and repeat.
Take it on the chin.
Haha, why would you be very happy with a player who stank the place out at right wing playing even further out of position at right back?
Because his good attributes are his strength, pace and tackling - and not shooting or ball control tbh
Oh please mate give it a rest. Comfortable Sissoko playing right wing back? And you this confidence in him playing in a position he barely plays because ???? The guy is dogshit end of story and a half decent pre season game doesn't suddenly make him adequate cover for Trippiers injury. The fact of the matter is we should of strengthened weeks ago so we had a decent squad ready for the new season. We have CL and a league title to contend with and currently we don't have a good enough squad to compete with both. I think fans have every right to be extremely frustrated at this ridiculous transfer window.
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