Priority Number 1 - Full Backs!

[Parklane Block 34]

Last year we had the 2 best full backs in the league in Walker & Rose. Of course Rose is still at the club but is either crocked or his head has been turned or both.

If anyone thinks we will win anything with Davies and Trippier as fist choice full backs needs their head testing. They are simply not good enough for where we want to be, and as for Aurrier, he surely must go down as one of the worst signings the club has ever made. The guy is a liability and should be offloaded at the earliest opportunity.

If Rose can get fit and his head right then left back isn't an issue, but this is highly doubtful from what I can see, so replacements? Sessegnon from Fulham is the obvious one, he has been playing further forward for Fulham but personally think he would be ideal. We have been at our best when we have played 3 at the back and we looked great when we had Verts, Toby & Sanchez as a back 3, can the club persuade Toby to stay? Again Doubtful. But if we can or replace him with quality then a back 3 with Sessegnon as a left wing back would work IMO

So Right/Wing back then? How about Seamus Coleman from Everton? Solid and likes to get forward. Certainly an upgrade on what we have, which isn't hard... Anyone else?

 

[existenzrippchen]

Give me an upgrade on Davies. Go.
Aurier missed pre-season and will improve. Has everything a modern RB needs.
Trippier will never be better than solid, but I still wouldn't sell him.
Rose is unfit and I don't think he will regain the kind of form he had before his injury.

 

[Parklane Block 34]

Aurier hasn't got a brain! Im sorry I've seen enough. Liability and it isn't as if he is young? He's 25! Joke of a signing.

 

[El flaco]

Aurier hasn't got a brain! Im sorry I've seen enough. Liability and it isn't as if he is young? He's 25! Joke of a signing.

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Walker didn't have a brain, he got coached and is better although still prone to fuck ups.
Aurier is fine and will get better. Davies is solid too and was a mainstay of the side as we cruised ot second last year, and wen't on that great run this year. He doesn't have the pace/aggression that a fully fit Rose has which we could do with replacing.

 

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ZzzZzz what a great rant.

Coleman plays for a mid table side..

 

[sammyspurs]

Priority number one is proper back up for Kane.

If anyone cant see that after the last three games, I cant help you. We do better when Kane is injured, than when hes in the side in this form.

The full backs are easy targets, I find it a little bit naive to keep blaming them. Lloris has caused more goals than Trippier and Davies. Aurier needs to grow up I fully agree, but we´d be no better off with Walker this season than we´ve been with Tripper.

Why? Because our biggest problems in games have been a failure to create in the final third and/or wasting chances to kill games. Thats on the AMs and strikers.

We´ve shipped less goals than Chelsea and Liverpool and only 6 less than City.

People accusing the full backs of not getting forward should also consider the fact we have been playing a back 4 since November, not a back 3, where they become wing backs.
They are more defence orientated this season and by and large doing a really good job.

Open your eyes

I find it insane that in January it was all "tricky winger" talk, Malcom, Zaha, Moura etc

We sign Moura, dont use him, the same problems remain, but instead of people saying "play Moura!!", they now want Trippier and Davies sold.
Why wasnt the full backs priority in January?

 

[Parklane Block 34]

My eyes are open thanks. Anyone who thinks we will win trophies with Davies and Trippier as full backs is deluded! THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! and Aurrier is a shocking footballer! Open your eyes!

 

[sammyspurs]

My eyes are open thanks. Anyone who thinks we will win trophies with Davies and Trippier as full backs is deluded! THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! and Aurrier is a shocking footballer! Open your eyes!

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But why wasnt you saying that when we beat Madrid and Dortmund, and drew away at the Bernabau and Juve with the very same full backs?
Why wasnt you saying this before the Utd game? Or when we beat Utd in the league game?
Did you think this when we spanked Liverpool, and drew at Anfield? Or beat Woolwich? and Chelsea away?

Why wasnt you saying this when we went four months unbeaten?
How do you explain having the third best defence in the country?

How is Trippier and Davies fault that Son and Kane have been poor the last few games? If Dier scores at the end of the first half, and Utd crumble, are the full backs ok again?

Its a poor argument to begin with and its backed up by nothing of substance other than they are easy scapegoats.
Of course we can win a trophy with them playing, but the rest of the team need to turn up too.

 

[sammyspurs]

And I´ll ask anyone this, you get ONE signing this summer, what position do you want it to be in?
Think carefull now before you start saying where our priorities are.

A full back or a striker?
A full back or a CM?
A full back or a CB?

Dream on

 

[Parklane Block 34]

It isn't a poor argument at all. You need to keep improving otherwise you stand still or worse go backwards. For me these 2 positions are our clear weak link. You put Last years full backs in Walker and Rose in their place. Play 3 at the back with Toby, Verts, and Sanchez, Do you not think we would be a better team? Simply we would be.

They are average at best and easily upgradable.

 

[Colonel_K]

But why wasnt you saying that when we beat Madrid and Dortmund, and drew away at the Bernabau and Juve with the very same full backs?
Why wasnt you saying this before the Utd game? Or when we beat Utd in the league game?
Did you think this when we spanked Liverpool, and drew at Anfield? Or beat Woolwich? and Chelsea away?

Why wasnt you saying this when we went four months unbeaten?
How do you explain having the third best defence in the country?

How is Trippier and Davies fault that Son and Kane have been poor the last few games? If Dier scores at the end of the first half, and Utd crumble, are the full backs ok again?

Its a poor argument to begin with and its backed up by nothing of substance other than they are easy scapegoats.
Of course we can win a trophy with them playing, but the rest of the team need to turn up too.

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No point asking those questions, another poster who’s been around for years and rarely said fuck all and decided to come out and start having a rant today. This thread and the ‘who should replace Poch’ needs to get in the sea.

 

[sammyspurs]

It isn't a poor argument at all. You need to keep improving otherwise you stand still or worse go backwards. For me these 2 positions are our clear weak link. You put Last years full backs in Walker and Rose in their place. Play 3 at the back with Toby, Verts, and Sanchez, Do you not think we would be a better team? Simply we would be.

They are average at best and easily upgradable.

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And if I put an in form Bale in place of Dele we´ll also do better. Sell Dele

 

[tbonepremier]

Priority number one is proper back up for Kane.

If anyone cant see that after the last three games, I cant help you. We do better when Kane is injured, than when hes in the side in this form.

The full backs are easy targets, I find it a little bit naive to keep blaming them. Lloris has caused more goals than Trippier and Davies. Aurier needs to grow up I fully agree, but we´d be no better off with Walker this season than we´ve been with Tripper.

Why? Because our biggest problems in games have been a failure to create in the final third and/or wasting chances to kill games. Thats on the AMs and strikers.

We´ve shipped less goals than Chelsea and Liverpool and only 6 less than City.

People accusing the full backs of not getting forward should also consider the fact we have been playing a back 4 since November, not a back 3, where they become wing backs.
They are more defence orientated this season and by and large doing a really good job.

Open your eyes

I find it insane that in January it was all "tricky winger" talk, Malcom, Zaha, Moura etc

We sign Moura, dont use him, the same problems remain, but instead of people saying "play Moura!!", they now want Trippier and Davies sold.
Why wasnt the full backs priority in January?

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If we with the current squad do better without Kane, wouldn't that indicate that we do have the necessary backup already?

A pure backup striker simply does not work.

There are barely any strikers out there who are able to deliver the goods when they spend the majority of their time as subs or on the bench.

Son, or another mobile AM, is the best Kane backup we can have. Alli would probably do well too.

A full back to rotate with Davies, let KWP rotate with Trippier. A Dembelian midfielder as rotation option in central midfield. An Eriksen-type playmaker and an Alli-type mobile, goalscoring AM.

Ship Lamela and Llorente, Aurier and Rose.

 

[sammyspurs]

If we with the current squad do better without Kane, wouldn't that indicate that we do have the necessary backup already?

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No because when Kane is fit, Poch wont rotate him. We need someone he feels he can sub Kane for that will actually make a difference mid game

A pure backup striker simply does not work.

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Not if you dont sign one and give him game time

There are barely any strikers out there who are able to deliver the goods when they spend the majority of their time as subs or on the bench.

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As I said, they dont need to only benchewarm, they can rotate or play together even

 

[Totti]

Think full backs are definitely a problem.

Can't really play 3 at the back successfully because our wing backs aren't wing backs. Davies and Trippier don't like getting forward or beating a man and when they do, they only go back and pass to the likes of Eriksen, Dembele or Dier.

Can play a back four, but still, they don't offer any outlet because when they get the ball, the crosses are either hit and hope or they pass backwards in an attempt to keep the ball. There is no bravery or aggression there. Not saying Davies isn't brave or aggressive as he has shown he is that when he puts a foot in, but in terms of attacking he's neither.

Aurier has potential in the sense that he's aggressive, relatively quick and with confidence and the right coaching is likely to attack and take on his man. Whilst his crossing is a little poor, getting himself into attacking positions and providing that outlet will cause enough problems.

It really is sad to see that we've gone from the two best wing backs in the Premier League in Walker and Rose and ended up with Trippier and Davies. Again, that's not criticising either player because they're good solid players but its meant we've tried playing the same way with inferior footballers. It's like selling Eriksen and starting Lamela (instead of buying a proper replacement) because Lamela has a bit of guile about him and can get assists.

It's no surprise that media outlets have stated we are actively scouting a left back. We need one. Preferably someone who's very quick and not afraid to attack. Pochettino will probably give Aurier one more season to see how he adapts to a pre-season, fitness regime and our style of play. Though I hope KWP also gets some games as he fits the criteria.

Priority this summer though will be:

1. CM
2. FB
3. CB

I think we'll sign a player in each one of those positions. Probably not at right back with Aurier, Trippier and KWP but we'll definitely be signing a left back, definitely a central midfielder and with Alderweireld likely to be off a centre back too.

 

[tbonepremier]

And I´ll ask anyone this, you get ONE signing this summer, what position do you want it to be in?
Think carefull now before you start saying where our priorities are.

A full back or a striker?
A full back or a CM?
A full back or a CB?

Dream on

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We've got Kane upfront, that Poch wants to start 90% of games through each season, and have proved that we do fine with Son in his place when he's injured.

We've got three great CMs in Wanyama, Dembele and Dier, and still have hopes that Winks will come back to challenge them, and Alli and Eriksen can definitely do a job there.

We've got two of the best CBs in the league in Verts and Sanchez, we still have Toby, and we have Dier and Davies as possible backup, as well as Foyth and Wanyama.

We have Trippier and Davies as full backs, which, although I like both (and particularly Davies) may arguably be the weakest two in our first eleven (apart from Alli when he's off his game, which imo he has been for a large part of the season). Rose and Aurier are backup. Rose is a backstabbing, greedy cunt, and has spent the majority of each of the last two seasons being injured. Aurier has been a disaster. And Poch likes to rotate his full backs.

If you really think about it, going for full backs makes sense. Calling Trippier and/or Davies shit is wrong though.

 

[sammyspurs]

We've got Kane upfront, that Poch wants to start 90% of games through each season, and have proved that we do fine with Son in his place when he's injured.

We've got three great CMs in Wanyama, Dembele and Dier, and still have hopes that Winks will come back to challenge them, and Alli and Eriksen can definitely do a job there.

We've got two of the best CBs in the league in Verts and Sanchez, we still have Toby, and we have Dier and Davies as possible backup, as well as Foyth and Wanyama.

We have Trippier and Davies as full backs, which, although I like both (and particularly Davies) may arguably be the weakest two in our first eleven (apart from Alli when he's off his game, which imo he has been for a large part of the season). Rose and Aurier are backup. Rose is a backstabbing, greedy cunt, and has spent the majority of each of the last two seasons being injured. Aurier has been a disaster. And Poch likes to rotate his full backs.

If you really think about it, going for full backs makes sense. Calling Trippier and/or Davies shit is wrong though.

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But it’s not the full backs falling short.
Kane looks wrecked and he still has a World Cup on the way.
How do you think he will start next season, he is notorious for not clicking until September or October as it is.

Shall we right off the first few weeks of the season AGAIN with no options up top?

The players who are underperforming need to step up, we have a great squad.
Wanyama has been garbage, Dier hit and miss, Sanchez still young with a mistake in him and Lloris playing like Grobelaar.

But the full backs should take care of it all. Even Cafu would struggle the way we lose the middle sometimes.

 

[Parklane Block 34]

I didn't say Davies & Trippier are shit and I would say they shouldn't be sold. Aurrier needs to go and keep Davies and Trippier as back ups. What I am saying is they are massive downgrade on Walker & Rose and we shold be looking to improve both positions, as IMO they are not good enough for us and are a weak link.

 

[tbonepremier]

But it’s not the full backs falling short.
Kane looks wrecked and he still has a World Cup on the way.
How do you think he will start next season, he is notorious for not clicking until September or October as it is.

Shall we right off the first few weeks of the season AGAIN with no options up top?

The players who are underperforming need to step up, we have a great squad.
Wanyama has been garbage, Dier hit and miss, Sanchez still young with a mistake in him and Lloris playing like Grobelaar.

But the full backs should take care of it all. Even Cafu would struggle the way we lose the middle sometimes.

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But a second striker won't help with the Kane problem. He's such an important player in the team, in the squad, for the club, that he will play those games no matter who our other striker is. No manager that I can think of would put Kane on the bench through a poor spell because they know he can suddenly turn it around and get a hattrick.

What you envision and argue for is unrealistic.

 

[tbonepremier]

I didn't say Davies & Trippier are shit and I would say they shouldn't be sold. Aurrier needs to go and keep Davies and Trippier as back ups. What I am saying is they are massive downgrade on Walker & Rose and we shold be looking to improve both positions, as IMO they are not good enough for us and are a weak link.

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It may be worth taking into consideration that Davies' production in terms of goals and assists is better than we've ever seen from Rose. And imo he is the better defender of the two, although he may have more difficulty in 1v1s against quick attackers.