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Ergo is John!
When found out, it's sarcasm.
I like reading your posts and I did think of you every time Tripps made a mistake today (verging on an unhealthy situation then...) but it’s a misguided if somewhat understandable statement to say that the FA Cup is dead. You can reference the money but to supporters on the ground and most people involved in the game, the FA Cup is ansolutely a major trophy, it does mean a lot, and that’s why you’re seeing very strong teams winning it year after year. It’s also got a level of romance and intrigue that the CL will never have, with match-ups and results that European competition can’t come close to.
A poor squad that is comfortably 3rd in the PL, playing home games at Wembley, into the knockout stages of the CL. Yeah what a "shit situation"
What a fucking dumb cunt
The FA Cup is only dead in the minds of CL brainwashed fans. It’s a major trophy and one we’ve got much more chance of winning than the CL for example which is a pipe dream. Dismissing it as an achievement is spitting on our history as a club
In fairness to Goldbridge, I think he's referring to the short-term situation that sees us without our top 3 goalscorers during a fixture pileup...
... which is a bit of a shit situation.
Definitely not dead, injist understand the value the Champions League gives us to longer term success on and off the pitch.
Do I think the FA Cup or League Cup is shit? Fuck no. Do I want to win one or the other? More than I can put into words but this isn't just any old time in our history, this is where we need to think about the money more than ever hence it becomes a bigger priority than usual.
Top 4 and no trophy for 5 years or 5 domestic cups and Europa League football for 5 years. Sorry but until we find a way to genuinely compete on a consistent basis the money elite European football brings is just too valuable to the club at the moment and simply cannot be overlooked.
Lose that money and it'll add another 20% onhow long it takes to pay off the new builds, make it very difficult to pay top wages and see others like Everton, Wolves or Leicester bridge the gap on us instead of us keeping with the Sheikhs, World record transfer fees and oil barons of this world running English clubs at the moment.
I'd love a cup but money is money and an extra £50m-£100m unfortunately matters more at the moment than a name etched into a cup come May. Sorry that's where we are at for the time being
Define success
Yes, when all of your 3 best players aren’t available....it is hard.
Palace played without their 3 defenders and captain Milivojevic. Eriksen, Toby, Aurier, Rose weren't injured.
He build the team with a lot of top players already being here. Lloris Walker vertonghen rose dembele dier eriksen kane were already at the club when he arrived. He developed them all to next levels. Since he arrived we only spent big on Sanchez, sissoko and son. Toby, wanyama and dele were cheap.
From memory, he wanted schneiderlin got stambouli. Wanted a fast center back to play high line the board gave him fazio lol. Wanted berahino we didn’t pay what West Brom wanted. Wanted Mane and Winjaldum and we didn’t give in to their wage demands. I know you gonna say that they flopped on their clubs but that doesn’t matter. No one knows how they would fit and perform at Tottenham.
Last season in May he said he wanted us to be brave and some convinced themselves that being brave was not signing anyone ROFL. he wasn’t clearly backed this season at the very least you can’t deny that. Yet he’s not gonna go to the press and say that levy is a cheap bastard. Dembele who poch says he’s one of the best talents he ever had and had the chance to be one of the best in the world leaves the club and you think he doesn’t want someone to replace him?
The cups debacle is obviously a low point of poch management career here. Maybe if we had decent dept he wouldn’t throw a line up that had players that wouldn’t play for Burnley or Newcastle. Today besides Hugo and eriksen what could we have played? Our team already didn’t had decent midfield in the summer but we had a world class attack, now without them the rest of the team is exposed.
I don’t know your agenda at all. Maybe you don’t have one. But you don’t rate poch and that’s obviously.
Winning trophies and becoming a serious force in football. I want to see the club constantly challenging for the title regardless of who is manager or who plays for us.
The current moment comes at a real shit time with the inflation of prices coiciding with the stadium, new facilities etc but for me Tottenham are a massively underachieving club and it's doing what it needs to solidify itself as a big player in world football in building a stadium that only Man U, Barca, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich can compete with in the current top 10 according to reports last week.
For me I want the Premier League and or Champions League and I want to see us compete consistently not just a flash in the pan throw at it all.
We get there by giving ourselves as much of an even playing field as those always challenging and as we don't have a sugar daddy, the way we do that is through it's infrastructure from top to bottom. That takes time but the club also needs to weigh up risk at this time. Paying its debts are more important that the touch of glory at present so I'm cool with it, happy where the club is heading and all the shit that surrounds brand building and all the unfortunate necessary bollocks that goes along with it but in time if I don't see the club making the most of what it's doing infrastructure wise I'll of course get pissed and let down.
Until we get into the stadium, start paying off the costs and start seeing the ROI of our workings I'm cool with us just hanging in there in all honesty. Do that, get onto an even level with those we are sparring with and I'd expect nothing less than to see us take it up a level. Until then the club needs time and it need some our support in doing so as far as I'm concerned but to answer your question, I want the real stuff, the pinnacle of domestic football, that's what I hope and see us daring to do but only when the time is right and the club isn't at risk
They also can’t play every minute. Do you want them to be injured as well? Players need to rest. You don’t see the correlation between increased injuries and the amount of players we had in the WC over the summer? Majority of our team had no offseason. They racked up so many minutes and it’s wearing on their bodies.
Every club rotates players in these competitions. For us, rotating players right now means third string players because we have so many injured. It’s not rocket science.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and its great that not everyone thinks the same, but to hear the same negative shite from you, every day, for god knows how long (years) is fucking boring and is the reason posters get annoyed with you and your ilk.
You're meant to love the club and support it, where's the support, where's the understanding that we're in a period of growing the club off the field to get us to be able to compete on it?
You come across as a decent guy, hell even the hood doesn't appear to have a cuntish side to him, but think about the effect you're having on every thread you post negativity on. The negativity seeps through the club because of fans like you and the hood, Poch mentioned it, the club has a complex and doesn't believe. Well that comes from you, the hood and the rest of the negative fans.
I've said it before, people slate Pool fans for being weird and deluded and there are a few like that, but most of them are just really positive and love big-ing up the players and the club, deluded maybe but which club has 5 champs league and what is it 19 league titles..... do you reckon there's maybe a coincidence there? Their fans and the club believe they can always win, a lot of our lot just love a fucking moan and expect us to lose.
> Spurs have a gutting 2-0 loss to Palace and get knocked out of the cup
> "So where does this leave Pochettino?"
> Lawrenson proceeds to talk about how his stock is 'going up and up and up' (?!) so he must surely be going to United.
Shut up you fucking tramp. Just because the league table actually looks like Lawrenson's prediction table for the first time in a decade doesn't mean he should be this lazy in his analysis.
It's literally ramblings that he would have come out with regardless of our result.
Lawro should have retired from punditry when Hansen did.
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Prioritising the Premier league then we better win Wednesday. We have lost too many matches recently to have confidence that without Dele and Kane and with a tired Son and Eriksen we will achieve that. If Poch is seriously thinking about leaving as with Redknapp the players will know and the results suffer. Hope I am wrong but these next 3 matches will be crucial. We just seem unable to score enough.
To be fair you come from the other end of the spectrum to me but you've generally stayed above the personal abuse and I know you genuinely believe in the the club, it's strategy and it's ethos.
I respect you for that. You also come across as a good guy and a passionate fan and if we met for a pre-match pint some time I reckon we'd finish up singing together and cheering together.
But.
I genuinely, honestly feel that too many of our fans use one shite period of our history , i.e the 90's, as a basis to glorify everything that's happened since.
I don't see us as this small club punching above our weight, I see us as a big club with massive support and history that should be challenging for and winning major honours on a regular basis.
I passionately believe that the current owners saw a sleeping giant and viewed us as an opportunity to make a huge financial gain on their initial investment with trophies and titles way down their list of priorities . 18 years and 1 league cup surely backs thst up?
I also despair at the lack of net investment in the playing squad. To me it's just further proof of their long term objectives .
I don't expect you to agree with me, but at least let me argue my point. That's what I do , try to do, on here.
And following last summers debacle, its clear that a growing number of our fan base share my views.
I'll keep posting. Every day. If it really upsets you so much I'm sorry, but there is an ignore button. It's there to be used.