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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread
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I wrote this yesterday:
"About Doherty, there is something else to consider from Wolves' point of view: Adama Traoré's exceptional season.
Playing as a RW - and basically, as a traditional old school RW - he became their main threat on the right. Also, to accommodate him in the team, Nuno changed the formation from a 3-5-2 to a 3-4-3, which left their midfield a bit more exposed.
Perhaps with Naitland-Miles Nuno will ask his WB's (or at least one of them) to play also through the middle - a bit like Walker does for City."
(Add that to the fact that Doherty is 28, played for Wolves for a decade and this is probably their last chance to make a profit on him)
Interesting. How do you think he'd suit the back-three-in-possession setup that Mourinho seems to be going for?
Or would the back-four-out-of-possession be fine for Skriniar (even with Doherty bombing up down the right wing and having to get back)?
I don't get why he would be so cheap, says £15mil in the article today but would love it, right dodgy Mendes deal
Certainly interesting and somewhat contradictory in terms of links.
Doherty has only ever excelled in a 3 at the back formation.
Skriniar has been dogshit in one.
We don't tend to play 3 at the back.
Though with Sanchez, Alderweireld and Dier now being preferred to centre back, Davies being loved and playing in a back three for Wales. Rumours of Sessegnon being highly praised by Jose and links to Doherty etc - I wonder if it's something we're looking towards...
Lloris
Sanchez - Dier - Alderweireld
Doherty - Lo Celso - Hojbjerg - Sessegnon
Bergwijn
Kane - Son
With Davies, Tanganga and Foyth being depth for centre back. Davies and Gedson being back up for our wing back positions. Perhaps even Lucas considering his monstrous performances defensively outwide last season.Sanchez - Dier - Alderweireld
Doherty - Lo Celso - Hojbjerg - Sessegnon
Bergwijn
Kane - Son
I assume it is his age. 28 isn't that old but look at the Thiago rumors. He is a world class player and going for 25-30m and I'd imagine it's so low because of his age.
Completely agree re: Chilwell's valuation. It's likely a case of compounding frustration as rival fanbases look over at what Chelsea is currently doing - we aren't the only ones growing a bit restless as they keep adding high priced player after high priced player (United fans especially).
Wonder what’s going to happen with Rose?
On the Doherty front we're kinda-sorta playing our RB as an RWB.
But yeah, Dav is also way worse in a back 3, and that's never been Jose's system in general.
Thiago contract has just one year left, that's why. And 15 milion for Doherty is very cheap but can't explain why. Maybe of this guy
If you think about it, we're somewhat fortunate that there's actual interest in Aurier and Ndombele.
Toby is pretty wank in a back three too.
Suits DIer though, I feel.
Two notes:
Skriniar could play in a back 3 - if he was used centrally; Conte prefers Stefan de Vrij for the role. Skriniar's main issue there has been playing as a RCB, especially because Inter's main options for RWB (Candreva and D'Ambrosio) are slow players and not very good defenders.
At Tottenham, Skriniar would play in a back 4 - most likely as a LCB (the position he played most games in his career). In possession, like Toby and Dier when they were used in this role, he would became the central defender of a back 3 - Davies on the left, Toby on the right.
He wouldn't have to cover for Doherty, for example.
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I think that we will be playing the same lopsided system that we did last season but with Doherty playing the aurier role. It suits a RWB in my opinion even though it’s not a standard back 3 it does function as one in possession.
This link only makes me more certain that there is no magic 433 system waiting in the wings for Jose, it will just simply be what it was last season with some upgrades in personnel.
Hope I am wrong though as I think it makes us quite predictable going forward.
Aurier out for a similar fee we get Doherty in for would be pretty spectacular business to be honest.
I think - and unlike you I hope - you're right.
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During Peak Poch that DM role really wasn't so terribly different than being the middle man in a back 3.
Needed a guy who can read the play in front of him, make decisions in tight spaces, get the ball and have some quality playing the ball to teammates. When Dier is on form, that's his skillset.
He's less adept at the classic center half skill of turning his shoulders, covering space, and making a play against threatening runs behind/beyond him. Ledley King was a god at that, and Toby is also outstanding at it.