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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread

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bonaspur23 said:
No but you are not making a solid point. You are comparing Kane to varane, who are in two totally different price tiers. Your point that a player that is more expensive should always be the currently better player is not how it works. Future value is important, not just immediate value.
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I'm confused? We're already thinking about selling the player we want to buy and incorporating that into the price we're willing to pay?

I don't really care about sell on price. When thinking about purchasing a player I'm hoping they'll be here for the entirety of their careers and perform well for us.

If they don't, and we have to sell, cross that bridge when we come to it.

I'm sure City aren't thinking of sell on prices with the fees they pay.
 
SchmoodSpur said:
We speculated to accumulate with Ndombele, Sissoko, Sanchez, Bergjwin and Soldado.

We didn't with Eriksen, Lloris, Dembele, Vertonghen and Alderweireld.

If we had actual proof of overspending working at Spurs then ok. But we don't. Our most successful signings have been relatively cheap.
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The market changed at the end of the 2016 window. You dont really get good, cheap deals anywhere anymore. Promising players set you back £25m to £30m. Even someone as shrewd as Leicester in the market forked out £36m on 19 yr old Fofana.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
The market changed at the end of the 2016 window. You dont really get good, cheap deals anywhere anymore. Promising players set you back £25m to £30m. Even someone as shrewd as Leicester in the market forked out £36m on 19 yr old Fofana.
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As you say the price points have changed so £25m-30m is the new £10-£15m. So the point still remains that our greatest signings have not been when we've ''just paid the money''.

Romero is not worth that. The prices being mooted would make him around the 5th most expensive defender of all time.
 
SchmoodSpur said:
We speculated to accumulate with Ndombele, Sissoko, Sanchez, Bergjwin and Soldado.

We didn't with Eriksen, Lloris, Dembele, Vertonghen and Alderweireld.

If we had actual proof of overspending working at Spurs then ok. But we don't. Our most successful signings have been relatively cheap.
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That’s not quite right, Dembele, Lloris, Verts, Eriksen where signed a long time ago when fees where smaller, football has inflated dramatically since then. If you compare say Dembele 2012 (£15m) with Ndombele 2019 (£55m) between those time periods football has gone 2-3-4 times up so they where not really cheap signings, most of them where ambitious to a degree.
 
SchmoodSpur said:
I'm confused? We're already thinking about selling the player we want to buy and incorporating that into the price we're willing to pay?

I don't really care about sell on price. When thinking about purchasing a player I'm hoping they'll be here for the entirety of their careers and perform well for us.

If they don't, and we have to sell, cross that bridge when we come to it.

I'm sure City aren't thinking of sell on prices with the fees they pay.
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Future value is not sales value. It’s the value they will have to the club in their entirety, not just the first season.
 
SchmoodSpur said:
There are certainly some talented lads about like Dias, Marquinhos and De Ligt etc. but none have achieved what he has.

He's certainly better than Romero who some want to pay £20m more for. Which is more the point.

If Harry Kane went for £160m would people expect us to spend £180m for his replacement, an inevitably weaker player?
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Achievements don't mean better, otherwise Andy Lonergan is a better player than our squad combined, Rhian Brewster miles ahead of Kane

It's abit different too, he isn't as good as people make out & had 1 year remaining on his contract
 
Tomo said:
That’s not quite right, Dembele, Lloris, Verts, Eriksen where signed a long time ago when fees where smaller, football has inflated dramatically since then. If you compare say Dembele 2012 (£15m) with Ndombele 2019 (£55m) between those time periods football has gone 2-3-4 times up so they where not really cheap signings, most of them where ambitious to a degree.
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Even taking in inflation they were not overpaid for, which is the debate.

Soldado was bought at the same time. That was an ambitious signing. The others were prudent. We have a direct comparison in the prices paid for Lamela and Soldado at the times.
 
SchmoodSpur said:
As you say the price points have changed so £25m-30m is the new £10-£15m. So the point still remains that our greatest signings have not been when we've ''just paid the money''.

Romero is not worth that. The prices being mooted would make him around the 5th most expensive defender of all time.
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Works both ways that argument. If we'd have just paid the money for Mane, Zaha, Wijnaldum, De Jong, Grealish, Fernandes, Dias then things could be quite different. I'd say not being prepared to get first choices because of lumpy costs leaves you overpaying for 3rd or 4th choices. N'dombele being the exception but thats more down to poor reasearch on his lazy attitude.
 





To add to this, the article also said that we would look to sign Tomiyasu to fill the gap of Tanganga going out on loan.
This makes NO sense. Our ECL qualification means that it's the perfect place for Tanganga to get settled in. Why can't well SELL Dier for a discounted price and use that money to fund another CB.
 
enfield1985 said:
Sorry Rodon is a world beater then when he was our 4th choice CB last season behind an ageing Alderweirald who people say was good to get off our books and Error Prone Dier and Sanchez. I know Jose is not good at developing players but if Rodon was ready he would have played more often ahead of those players. We needed to sign a top quality CB and RB last summer but we went and signed Doherty and Rodon.

It is plausible that Rodon could become a very good Premier League defender akin to someone like Dunk but it is unlikely he will have the time to develop at Spurs.
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Never said Rodon was a world beater (yet). But your disparaging comments are nonsense. It's obvious (to anyone who watches football) that Rodon is a very talented defender and more than capable of becoming a very good player for us.

End of story.
 
Could someone give me an example of a successful overspend transfer by Spurs?

Im trying to think of one but can't.

Sonny is undeniably our most successful signing over £20m and even then, that signing has turned out to be an absolute bargain and again a sign of prudence.
 
SchmoodSpur said:
Even taking in inflation they were not overpaid for, which is the debate.

Soldado was bought at the same time. That was an ambitious signing. The others were prudent. We have a direct comparison in the prices paid for Lamela and Soldado at the times.
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Soldado was a failure true but as proved by other clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea you can spend big and have players perform to their potential. If Romerio is the elite centre back he is hyped up to be and a level or two above any other player we could get, you’d think it would be wise long term to try to find a way. I’d rather we spend less but is there a cheap centre back of that level?
 
Tomo said:
Soldado was a failure true but as proved by other clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea you can spend big and have players perform to their potential.
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But also...

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If Alasdair Gold is right, Levy and Spurs are truly bottling this transfer window.

Tanganga's loan exit would open the door for a move for Bologna's Takehiro Tomiyasu, who can play in similar positions in order to bolster Espirito Santo's options.
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Why not sell Dier, Sanchez, and Aurier (for discounted price if needed) instead of sending Tanganga out on loan? We're literally in a competition that is perfect for developing youngsters, ECL.
Those sales can then pay for Tomiyasu as a RB and then a CB to partner Romero.

Progress in talks to sign Cristian Romero has slowed and despite the Argentine being Tottenham's main target a decision will be made sooner rather than later over whether to push closer to Atalanta's demands or put that money towards more than one player on Paratici's list with lower price tags.
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Milenkovic is possibly worse than Dier, albeit younger.
Zouma is Chelsea's 5th best CB (hence they're selling him).
Vestegaard is slow and has been brutally exposed at Southampton.

Those 3 don't even improve our defence much. Far better to spend it all on Romero.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Gold saying we might move on to other targets than Romero. Might be a tactic to get Atalanta to the table. The season is nearing though. It needs to come to a head one way or another.

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Cristian Romero decision, Dusan Vlahovic and Fabio Paratici's busy phone

Here are our Tottenham Hotspur talking points following the 3-1 win at MK Dons in the latest pre-season friendly under Nuno Espirito Santo
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Don't do it to yourself, this one's dead in the water.
 
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