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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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sammyspurs said:
If you could win the argument you wouldnt need ignore, you’d simply post something that refutes the facts.

If Kane has scored regularly against top 6 in the last two seasons, just post it.

If he’s won stuff, just post it.

If more than 1 of his 32 goals last season was against a team that was top 6 while playing them, then post it.

If the vast majority wasn’t against the bottom 10 then post it

If anyone thinks Haaland wouldn’t improve us that’s fine, but then it’s definitely them that’s a deluded troll
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Agreed with one rider only and not calling for debate sir.

I truly believe that if Kane were 100% committed it would be much closer in terms of which of the two players would contribute and give us more.

As it stands 100% in agreement with you and go so far as saying a few other strikers in the PL as well.
 
sammyspurs said:
Actually massively interesting that Lewandoski took 137 shots last season, and scored 41.
That’s 18 more goals from the same amount of shots.

The comparison is heaven sent.
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The comparison is way of. The German league is a different proposition. There's about 10 teams that play as open and expansive as Leeds. Let Kane play those teams every week (and in a team as dominant as Bayern) and the numbers would be similar.

Werner has been found out. Sancho is about to follow suit. The Bundesliga is a completely different animal to the PL.
 
Fazz said:
Didn't claim that he did. It was an example of more context being needed for these stats. The fact that you don't have knowledge of that context but stick to your narrative is telling.

Who knows - you might be right but you have no way of knowing till you actually delve deeper into the statistics.
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The only statistical way to gauge the difficulty of a player's shots/goals etc. is xG, which people dismiss when it comes to Kane because his goals above xG isn't great.

People talk about Kane winning the golden boot last season but fact is, his goals above xG was just +0.8 meaning he didn't score much more than he was expected to score. While +0.8 isn't bad, compare this with someone like Son who's goals above xG was +6.0 - the highest in the league last season. Bale's goals above xG was also extremely high at +5.2. Same team, same supporting cast, same manager. The difference is that Son and Bale were just much more efficient and clinical than Kane.

Other players with higher goals above xG than Kane include:
-Fernandes
-Salah
-Lacazette
-Gundogan
-Kelechi
-Ings
-Rashford
-Zaha

I could go on but there are too many to list...
 
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LuckyMe said:
The comparison is way of. The German league is a different proposition. There's about 10 teams that play as open and expansive as Leeds. Let Kane play those teams every week (and in a team as dominant as Bayern) and the numbers would be similar.

Werner has been found out. Sancho is about to follow suit. The Bundesliga is a completely different animal to the PL.
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Over the last 3 seasons, Lewa has scored 24 goals in 18 apps in the CL...

I'm pretty sure those weren't all Bundesliga teams..
 
LuckyMe said:
The comparison is way of. The German league is a different proposition. There's about 10 teams that play as open and expansive as Leeds. Let Kane play those teams every week (and in a team as dominant as Bayern) and the numbers would be similar.

Werner has been found out. Sancho is about to follow suit. The Bundesliga is a completely different animal to the PL.
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Yeah that’s why Kane’s numbers against the top 6 equal 3 goals in two years.
 
Fazz said:
Didn't claim that he did. It was an example of more context being needed for these stats. The fact that you don't have knowledge of that context but stick to your narrative is telling.

Who knows - you might be right but you have no way of knowing till you actually delve deeper into the statistics.
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But the context is a lie
I watch Spurs and Kane isn’t being forced to shoot from weird angles and long distances because of poor supply.

He simply has a poor conversion rate so shoots a lot
 
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NDomBadBoy said:
The only statistical way to gauge the difficulty of a player's shots/goals etc. is xG, which people dismiss when it comes to Kane because his goals above xG isn't great.

People talk about Kane winning the golden boot last season but fact is, his goals above xG was just +0.8 meaning he didn't score much more than he was expected to score. While +0.8 isn't bad, compare this with someone like Son who's goals above xG was +6.0 - the highest in the league last season. Bale's goals above xG was also extremely high at +5.2. Same team, same supporting cast, same manager. The difference is that Son and Bale were just much more efficient and clinical than Kane.

Other players with higher goals above xG than Kane include:
-Fernandes
-Salah
-Lacazette
-Gundogan
-Kelechi
-Ings
-Rashford
-Zaha

I could go on but there are too many to list...
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But these facts mean you support Woolwich
 
TylerB said:
Are you that simple? The Bundesliga on the whole is absolute turd. Entertaining, but turd. It has one outstanding team, a couple of good ones, and then the rest range from bang average to genuinely shocking. Bayern have been one of the best sides in the world for as long as I can remember. What's so difficult to understand about that??
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I thought you were gone....
 
NDomBadBoy said:
Interestingly, Kane's goals above xG was phenomenal during his peak years. In 16/17, his goals above xG was +9. But I'm sure goals above xG only matters during Kane's peak years because it fits the narrative of Kane being world class.

His form/ability etc has fallen off a cliff and stats show that. Numbers don't lie.
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Parking here for reference.
 
sammyspurs said:
But the context is a lie
I watch Spurs and Kane isn’t being forced to shoot from weird angles and long distances because of poor supply.

He simply has a poor conversion rate so shoots a lot
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Is he getting the same level of chances to shoot as Lewadonski or the other top strikers he is being compared to? It's evident we've had a creative problem for last 2 years which some of his top rivals clearly don't have. If he does eventually go to City I suppose we'll have our answer. My guess is he will be similar to the top strikers in shot to goal ratio.
 
Fazz said:
Is he getting the same level of chances to shoot as Lewadonski or the other top strikers he is being compared to? It's evident we've had a creative problem for last 2 years which some of his top rivals clearly don't have. If he does eventually go to City I suppose we'll have our answer. My guess is he will be similar to the top strikers in shot to goal ratio.
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Who created his 137 shots last season? God?
 
NDomBadBoy said:
Interestingly, Kane's goals above xG was phenomenal during his peak years. In 16/17, his goals above xG was +9. But I'm sure goals above xG only matters during Kane's peak years because it fits the narrative of Kane being world class.

His form/ability etc has fallen off a cliff and stats show that. Numbers don't lie.
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Bingo…..said it time and time again that people are living in 2017 with Kane.
Same with Dele, same with Eriksen.

They all come around in the end, don’t worry
 
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