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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Again, like Martinez, if we were looking to recruit to replace Kane I could get spending big on someone like him, but we aren't, so what would be the point of spending 80m on a pure CF who can only play one position - Kane's.

If we are keeping Kane, then lets spend big on a player who can play CF and wide forward. That way we get to use them much more, so we get value, and they are more likely to want to come if they can be assured that their versatility will insure they get plenty of minutes.
I'm just really opposed to super big fees for all but the most proven players. Osimhen still hasn't proven himself enough for us to spunk away 90m+, nor has Lautaro.

Our biggest transfers in order:

If they fail, not only do they hurt us on the pitch, but they hamper our efforts to do better with new signings.

Some here are getting carried away. We're still not a club that can afford to throw money around. We're competing with City/Liverpool/United who have close to double our revenue. A few missteps and we'll quickly find ourselves fighting the gonners for a top4/top6 spot.
 
Fair points, especially about how long the klopp style has been implemented. I just look at how we did under Conte last year (not far behind Liverpool once Kulu and Bent came in) a and can’t help but thing that with world class players like Perisic and Bissouma coming in - and more to come - that we can close the gap very quickly.
I can hope of that. But for that we need the owner, Levy and the manager be on the same page.
Let's hope we will continue this way. With good transfer windows, and this is not just wash in our eyes.
All it takes is just 1 or 2 bad windows to fall behind big time, with so many good clubs in England.
And we already tasted that with Pochettino.

Again so far i can't complain and the summer so far is so good for us.
We can't complain for the winter as well, cause we get 2 very good players IN, that helped us big time landing in that top 4.
 
You forgot to mention mugging off Man city for Sterling sale of £100m and Countinho sale to Barcelona for £120m, think another couple of high sales - funds a few players

cm's - Hojbjerg 3 goals and 4 assists, Bentancur 4 assists in 6 months/
And still neither of them are good at scoring goals, and that was proven. Hojberg miss a 500% chance against Liverpool, that could have cost us big. We got to thanks Newcastle big time for that win against Woolwich, which open the door for that 4th position.
As far as the selling from Liverpool, my point was completely different. And they actually get way, way better without this 2.
 
So what one's most akin to Tuchel?

..........Conte or DiMatteo? :kanehand:



Your point here seems to be little beyond that a manager can't hit the ground running in the EPL....

....Were you not watching us last season?
....Did you not see Conte in his first year at Chelsea?
......Poch had us in a title race in season #2



Will we win the league? Likely not..... Can we close the gap and give City & Liverpool another to legitimatly worry about? .....Absolutely.
I already said that we can close the gap, but not taking them over, unless they slip by same margin.
I think i was clear about that.

CL is a completely different phenom to league. I already explained how much different this season to Chelsea title with Conte is. Anyone with a 2 cent brain can understand it.

But i guess 5-7 years at perfect the style, your team, and knowing the rest of the team, isn't a huge advantage. As well as obviously having better squads.
We have completely different views for football.
 
Why? Fundamentally the same thing will apply..... Come the end of yr two (rather than yr 3), if all is well, we'll float the idea of a new deal and a payrise.......
Well there’s more than that to it …. Floating the idea of a pay rise is lovely but if he’s earned a pay rise then it won’t only be us that’s noticed it

The point being ….. 5 year contract pretty much gives the club 2 years peace of mind

You then (unless you’re Woolwich of course) use that middle year to, as you say … float improved terms with a contract extension

But if that doesn’t get agreed and you enter into the final 2 years then much of the power begins to swing towards the player …. Final year as we know they hold the cards

So after one year only…..We’re already into that negotiation stage which if not agreed leaves the 2 years where you either have to sell or risk the player running down the contract.

I think a poster mooted we don’t always mention options when announcing contracts …. I hope this is the case
 
What is this happy or super happy with players with Inter, heard it with Skriniar, Bastoni and now Martinez like some weird cult where everyone says the same thing.

Willem Dafoe Smile GIF

And look at Lukaku, miserable since he left and he cannot wait to get back there
 
I already said that we can close the gap, but not taking them over, unless they slip by same margin.
I think i was clear about that.

LOL.... You posted some rambling essay that no-one in their right mind bothered to read in full.

CL is a completely different phenom to league. I already explained how much different this season to Chelsea title with Conte is.

If you've got this nailed then why overlook the facts about Conte himself... As an EPL manager???

Anyone with a 2 cent brain can understand it.

2 cent brain?

Da fuck does that even mean?

Maybe where you come from brains are for sale..... If so, I hope you kept the receipt.

But i guess 5-7 years at perfect the style, your team, and knowing the rest of the team, isn't a huge advantage. As well as obviously having better squads.
We have completely different views for football.

You do love a good mindless ramble, don't you.

The post you first responded to suggested we could close the gap..... You posted a huge essay and a load of fluff about money Liverpool have spent and long term-building; insinuating that the gap is too big and you are now bickering over tedious non-points when, ultimately, you concur that we can close the gap afterall?


Yeh, my intelligence is def. the issue here. :pocheyes:
 
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Yeah by all accounts you might be right but you have to take context into account, Conte finished the season with an 11-2-3 record, his defence conceded 5 in the last 11 and had the 2nd highest amount of goals in the league since the turn of the new year.

Looks to me like he fixed the defence to me and this is largely without Romero who missed 17 matches in the whole of last season and his first choice full backs towards the end of the season.

This is all without a pre season by the way and him coming in in November whilst only having 1 transfer window since Jan, you say that Liverpool and City will improve but we have gone up serious levels in a few months, the only reason what's held us back is the personnel and specifically the weak spots and that's being improved on already and we will add more too.

The wild joker(s) we have in our teams are Son and Kane who are arguably 2 of the best forwards in the league surely?

Worth noting we finished 22 points off top spot last season, that's 7 wins - if you think about the amount of stupid losses we had last season (5 due to Nuno tax and silly stuff like Burnley away, Southampton/Wolves at home) we could claw back quite a lot of points there.

Obviously we know things don't quite work like that cause it's hard to imagine us doing the double over City again for example but that shows you the gap isn't as insurmountable as people think.
We should look the whole picture, shouldn't we ?
Conte did great since he come here, but we got 5 draws and 10 loses in 36 games, which is not small.
We struggle heavy against opposition that are tight in the back, and play comfortably well.
And yes we beat City, and drew 2x time with Liverpool, but we lost 3 time to Chelsea.
It's football, and my experience shows me that everything can happen.
But we are still far, far away from City and Liverpool. Even Chelsea are in front of us, and United was, probably no longer. But they have way more power than we do in the market. And not just in terms of money.

And i know that Conte didn't have pre-season, that he come in the middle of the season, and all of that, but that doesn't mean we automatically will become title contender. And when i talk about title contender i mean a real one, not just on paper, like every year people make 7-8 teams as title contender, when the reality is they are 2, and the battle is for the rest of the spot.

We were in solid top 4, and look what happen at one point, out of it, Pochettino sacked and we suffer.
Mourinho won the title with Chelsea on his comeback, and then next season he was 10th or so, and get sacked in the middle of it.
So many things could go wrong, otherwise we won't be talking about football.

Again my hope is to do better than this season in terms of play, and hopefully make steps towards the goal we all want.
But getting to 90+ points is a very hard task, and i have hard time seeing our team reaching it.
But we can always hope for Liverpool and City to slide a bit.
 
Well there’s more than that to it …. Floating the idea of a pay rise is lovely but if he’s earned a pay rise then it won’t only be us that’s noticed it

The point being ….. 5 year contract pretty much gives the club 2 years peace of mind

You then (unless you’re Woolwich of course) use that middle year to, as you say … float improved terms with a contract extension

But if that doesn’t get agreed and you enter into the final 2 years then much of the power begins to swing towards the player …. Final year as we know they hold the cards

So after one year only…..We’re already into that negotiation stage which if not agreed leaves the 2 years where you either have to sell or risk the player running down the contract.

I think a poster mooted we don’t always mention options when announcing contracts …. I hope this is the case

I just don't think it's a massive diff........ It's a 1 year difference.... We'd go through the same cycle regardless.... It's not like we're talking 3 vs 6 year and some kind of total lockdown deal like we got Kane to sign.

Perhaps if we'd just blown mega-bucks on a fee there might be more cash value to protect, but not so.
 
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