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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Herclueless said:
I don't question the legitimacy of it, on paper anyway, but rather whether it is particularly smart in the long run?

What crazy scheme will they have to think up next season?

Also, can this money even go towards wages/transfers anyway? Didn't they get a huge loan not that long ago that can't? And they still have to fall in line with La Liga rules which mean they currently can only go on to spend 1/4 of what they manage to get rid of from the wage bill I believe?
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It’s absolutely appalling business.

The fundamental problem in running a football club is that you can’t make players redundant. In any normal business, a situation like Barcelona would have simply seen mass redundancies and a readjustment of wages to earnings.

But they’re so fucked and their wage structure so absurd, they’re selling their future to get access to cash. It’s no different to some poor soul taking their jewellery to the pawn shop.
 
Herclueless said:
Am I missing something or is this reckless beyond belief?

So they are selling the future money they will receive from TV deals, to a company that will give them the money now, and I assume the company gets more overall by the end than they are paying in a lump now?

So what do Barcelona do in 3, 4, 5 or 10 years time when they need money for signings and wages but are only receiving 3% of the money that they should be getting for TV because the rest has been handed over to this payday loan company?

Are they essentially just torpedoing their future so that they can scrape by today?
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Yes.

You torpedo your future and part of your return is an aging Lewa
 
Herclueless said:
Am I missing something or is this reckless beyond belief?

So they are selling the future money they will receive from TV deals, to a company that will give them the money now, and I assume the company gets more overall by the end than they are paying in a lump now?

So what do Barcelona do in 3, 4, 5 or 10 years time when they need money for signings and wages but are only receiving 3% of the money that they should be getting for TV because the rest has been handed over to this payday loan company?

Are they essentially just torpedoing their future so that they can scrape by today?
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What they should be fucking doing is getting rid of some high earners, and using some of their fucking academy players, or getting a couple of young, cheapish talent.

Would mean struggling to win much over the next couple of years but would at least stabilise the club.

Could then kick back on from there…would still have the big name to attract top talent.

But no…instant win greedy fucking wankers
 
Cranston said:
It’s absolutely appalling business.

The fundamental problem in running a football club is that you can’t make players redundant. In any normal business, a situation like Barcelona would have simply seen mass redundancies and a readjustment of wages to earnings.

But they’re so fucked and their wage structure so absurd, they’re selling their future to get access to cash. It’s no different to some poor soul taking their jewellery to the pawn shop.
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Or, taking jewellery they expect to inherit to the pawnshop, hoping both that they're not written out of the will in the meantime and the price of gold doesn't crash.
 
cretinousgoat said:
What they should be fucking doing is getting rid of some high earners, and using some of their fucking academy players, or getting a couple of young, cheapish talent.

Would mean struggling to win much over the next couple of years but would at least stabilise the club.

Could then kick back on from there…would still have the big name to attract top talent.

But no…instant win greedy fucking wankers
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Exactly, lean on LA Masia. There's really nothing wrong with two or three seasons in mid-table.
 
Joan Thomas said:
Do you enjoy actually taking the piss out of and talking down the football club you claim to support?

Spurs fan my arse

How about first English club to achieve the double since the war. Or first English club to win a major European trophy. Or record FA cup winners pre ENIC. Or smashing the all time transfer record to sign Greaves . :coys:

Shall we take the piss out of those achievements while we're at it too? :disdain:
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If you can’t tell the difference between taking the piss out of you(in all your guises) and taking the piss out of the club, I apologize.

I understand that no one can challenge your version of events of the last thirty years and that we didn’t nearly go broke and completely miss out on the explosion of popularity of the EPL. The 90s were every bit as good as the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and we didn’t become a close to irrelevant mid-table club. I shouldn’t believe my own eyes that thinks I mostly watched shit and the odd relegation struggle while our biggest rival enjoyed unprecedented success. It didn’t happen. Because I got to see David Ginola and Jurgen Klinsmann. We had great days fighting for the Premier League title, glory nights in Europe and the odd European Final. Anyone who suggests otherwise clearly supports Woolwich
 
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Sir Archibald Crooks said:
We broke the transfer record with Gascoigne in 1988. Signed Lineker from Barcelona, then Klinsmann 5 years later. The rot set in after that as Sugar had a hissy fit because Klinsmann left so quickly and he went full austerity.
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Ah yes, you're right.

But these just underline my point really, we'd get individuals every now and again, we've never really spent "big," as in multiple big outlays, since the 60's. I don't think either Lineker or Klinsmann were particularly big outlays either, as both were on the downswing of their respective careers.

This is really the first time in decades that we've looked to spend big, other than with the Bale money, to actually build a team/squad worthy of a challenge. Poch's team was built on astute punts that were a result of player trading as we moved up the Prem rankings.

The root cause of this has always been Scholar.
 
Herclueless said:
Am I missing something or is this reckless beyond belief?

So they are selling the future money they will receive from TV deals, to a company that will give them the money now, and I assume the company gets more overall by the end than they are paying in a lump now?

So what do Barcelona do in 3, 4, 5 or 10 years time when they need money for signings and wages but are only receiving 3% of the money that they should be getting for TV because the rest has been handed over to this payday loan company?

Are they essentially just torpedoing their future so that they can scrape by today?
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They're gambling on future success, in the hopes that they'll get revenue in to cover those losses.

Trouble is, even with this gamble they'll still be a mile behind the big Prem teams, will only likely keep level with RM and I suspect they'll struggle even to keep up with the likes of Bayern.

Massively reckless considering what they're up against. They're basically trying to maintain their status rather than hitting the reset button.

Us oldies can remember them in the 80's, when they were pretty low down the pecking order in European Football. They reset then and built themselves into the biggest club in the World, mainly due to the work that Cruyff did.

They don't have that type of visionary anymore.

It's massively reckless and I believe will blow up hugely in their faces, but I expect yet another Billionaire will step in an bail them out at some point. If Chelsea can get some mug to shell out £4Bn to bail them, they'll be queueing up to blow their wad on Barca.
 
Ionman34 said:
They're gambling on future success, in the hopes that they'll get revenue in to cover those losses.

Trouble is, even with this gamble they'll still be a mile behind the big Prem teams, will only likely keep level with RM and I suspect they'll struggle even to keep up with the likes of Bayern.

Massively reckless considering what they're up against. They're basically trying to maintain their status rather than hitting the reset button.

Us oldies can remember them in the 80's, when they were pretty low down the pecking order in European Football. They reset then and built themselves into the biggest club in the World, mainly due to the work that Cruyff did.

They don't have that type of visionary anymore.

It's massively reckless and I believe will blow up hugely in their faces, but I expect yet another Billionaire will step in an bail them out at some point. If Chelsea can get some mug to shell out £4Bn to bail them, they'll be queueing up to blow their wad on Barca.
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The ESL has gone for now but it's still there, they are gambling on that and it wouldn't surprise me if it comes back very soon.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Not a bad listen

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