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Manager Antonio Conte

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AlabamaSpur said:
Its Levy...
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It’s an obvious and lazy move. It will probably placate more than half of the fan base. Above all else, it’s safe.
I think much will depend on the state of the club when Conté goes. If we’re a struggling 7th place club with Kane gone, we might not look too inviting for a good, forward thinking, ambitious bright young manager and we could easily get a retread or worse (think Nuno). If we’re sitting with a decent squad with potential and European football, we could get a Nagelsmann-Potter-Next-Bright-Young-Thing type.
 
Hampshire Spur said:
Interesting. Remember Mourinho was tarnished with that when things started to go pear shaped.
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Guido 🇺🇦 said:
I get where you are coming from.........

BUT

We are all conditioned to wait for a Manager (or Player) to commit and sign a long-term contract. But they are pointless. Did Poch signing a contract (two or three times) ever silence the media linking him to Chavs, Madrid or Utd? The answer, No.

If said manager on a long-term contract has a team that's playing shite and losing lots of games does it mean he won't get the sack? The answer, No.

I actually think it's a breath of fresh air that Conte and Spurs haven't got him tied down. Conte's words in the press have been absolutely fine, they've been positive about the Club, the relationship with Board and Paratici. He's been talking about building a Club, he's been talking about what's required in the future. On his contract, he sees no issues and always talks about the relationships being open, transparent, and honest (assume this is reciprocated the other way too). These are the conditions both sides are operating and neither side has expressed anything negative about it, both appear very happy to work this way.

It's only an issue because all of us have been molded into the narrative that it's only a positive if there's a long-term commitment.
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I agree that Conte for in particular signing a longer-term contract changes very little regarding his options to leave. He's walked out on plenty of clubs mid contract, and I'm pretty confident the same will happen to Spurs at some point.
That doesn't take away that him agreeing to one will have a myriad of positives to it.
Personally think we'll get an agreement with him over the next few months, but as I mentioned in my original post, I can see how all his talk about building stuff without having already committed with would people the long way

Brian Fantana said:
It seems fairly obvious that he’ll sign a new contract doesnt it? The players don’t really care. They care about two things. Getting paid and getting played. That’s it.

If the fans don’t drive him out before then of course.
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I don't know if that blanket statement applies to all players to be honest. If I'm a player I'd probably want to have something a little more tangible. It would probably affect any potential incoming players in January.
 
Mick Cooper said:
I understand the principle of setting up teams to be resilient and fortress like in their defending, and to stretch out the opponents to set them up for a fast counter.

This relies on defenders and midfielders retaining the ball and playing passes to our forwards, or into space they can exploit. I have no memory of witnessing any of that control or ability from our midfield on Wednesday. As per The Spur Est's post above, possession doesn't mean everything - but there is one immutable fact - and that is, the opposition can't score if we keep the ball. It becomes much harder for them to score if we actually start passing to people in the same strip as us (that strip on Wednesday is the work of the Devil - it should be burned, buried and never spoken of again) - as opposed to firing the ball straight back at the opposition, maybe everyone in our support section should wave a flag that say's - "Go on, have another go" every time we do it.

Airfix in another post on here (TFC, not necessarily this thread) rebutted Moany Joany I think, by quoting stats about our points against the top 2 last season and decimating 10 man Woolwich at WHL - and whilst I get where he's coming from, that point is broken by the amount of matches we played where we looked like the last game.

I like the (good) results, but hate the method by which we achieve them - we really are starting to look like Stoke, and not even good stoke - I mean relegation Stoke. Yep don't tell me our league position, we are still top 4, but I suspect that it won't be for long. We've been royally found out, and now we are starting to make teams like Manure look like WC70 Brazil, by playing in this hideous "Tortoise mode" and hoping that Lloris got laid before the game.

I love the way people on here are slagging Dier off, as if he is entirely to blame, that guy was being bombarded for 90 minutes by a fast flowing attack that came straight down our throats and he was like a lone sentry for most of the game, is it any real surprise that he didn't deal with every assault with text book precision? He's not prime Bobby Moore or Beckenbauer, but he's not Anthony Gardner or Calum Davenport either, until we stop using him as a flack jacket to protect the goal, and stick a midfield in front of him that can retain and recycle the ball, the poor bastard is going to crack at some point against a constant, unchecked flow of high speed attacks.

We need to change this game plan IMV, we don't have the midfield to make it work, and if we don't supply Kane and Son with good opportunities, then they might as well get a couple of deckchairs and sit and watch the decimation from a point of comfort.
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VonnegutBusy said:
Better players = better football

Lets be honest we are currently trying to dine at the top table with A LOT of players who wouldn't get a sniff at the elite clubs of today:

(Doherty, Emerson, Skipp, Lucas, Davies, Dier, Sess, Sanchez, Gil, Tanganga etc.)

Could probably add a waning Lloris to that list and then the jury is out on much of our second tier as to their level/ceiling (Hobby, Bentancur, Biss, Rich, Lenglet, Perisic)

Kane, Son and Romero are currently our only elite players with Kulu probably joining them with another good season behind him.

Conte puts the system before the players (which is why we start fucking Sanchez RCB and Emerson RWB) so in effect he is just waiting until we upgrade personnel to have success.

"We need patience (so I can shift all the dross)"
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Fuck off putting Skipp in that first shit list.
 
He needs to find a solution and fast. Something isn't right because in the run in at times we did well last season. I don't know what he's changed and how the players thoughts have changed but it needs to be rectified fast. I think he's got until the world Cup to turn our football and our form around or the fans will turn and he'll be off come the end of the season. Time to earn that wage.
 
AlabamaSpur said:
Will anyone really be shocked if Levy cuts ties with Conte after the season and brings Poch back? I think he's always regretted firing him.
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Poch did amazing for us and has been undoubtedly one of our best managers but come on.... the guys work was done. We peaked under him and then went on a run where we couldn't win an away game for 9months or something silly like that.

If fans want trophies why bring back a manager that couldn't do it the first time?

Also Poch's record away against the 'top 6' was terrible too.
 
Micky Bubbles said:
The board will be backing Paratichi who is the medium to long term transfer strategist and in turn that means Conte or whoever the manager is will be getting backed
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I get that , on the money side.
But on specific players it's a different matter.

Manager says I want a WB (don't laugh)

Paratici and team identify a WB ( I did say "don't laugh")

Manager oks purchase of WB (don't mention Spence)

Manager then fucks off

New manager plays a back 4

New WB doesn't suit his system

Paratici then has to identify a FB and the board has to spend more money.
 
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