the two domestic cups are considered a joke and inconvenience to the big boys now. CL money has devalued their importance.
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sorry, so you seem to berate Levy for not paying Carrick, Berba, Modric and Bale more to keep them around, but then go on and say when this was done for Lloris, Kane, Son and Dele it ruined the morale of the rest of the team.
I believe Levy sacked Martin Jol because he didn't agree with the sale of Berbatov having reluctantly gone along with the sale of Michael Carrick. This is on the record from Jol himself.
Levy was complicit in these sales.
By the time Ramos had arrived Levy had sacked George Graham before an FA Cup semi final with Woolwich, Glenn Hoddle in October 03 and Santini in October 04. Santini was sacked after a 9 month search for him as manager and David Pleat had been the caretaker.
By October 07, when Jol was sacked, as far as I was concerned Levy and ENIC were worse than Sugar. They had written off 4 out of the 8 seasons, from March 2001 until October 2007, that I had paid for two season tickets, by sacking managers. ENIC had appointed 3 of these managers.
Martin Jol was the first Spurs manager to have actually made serious progress, in respect of building a credible team, since Venables 92 / 93 team.
I concluded that ENIC didn't give a fuck about Jol or the Spurs season ticket holders and members whose subscription money they had co-opted for their 'project'. They used a season ticket waiting list as a stick to beat season ticket holders with, so they complied with increased prices, and The Supporters Trust as a device to bring onside any potential dissenting voices and to quell any potential unrest before it gained momentum. The Trust endorsed and went along with all of ENIC's penny pinching.
This was the main reason I gave up my two Paxton Road season tickets in block 19 row 2.
I have seen nothing since then to persuade me I was wrong about them.
What should he have done? Levy should have sold the club to Abramovich.
At the time neither Carrick, Berba, Modric or Bale were signing an improved contract to keep them about, they had their eye on bugger things so we had to dig deep and get the best deal we could, and reinvest.
That is your opinion. That opinion is not one I share. Selling your best players sets a precedent. It informs other clubs that you are willing to sell. Selling Carrick just encouraged United to come back for Berbatov. That is how I saw it then and it is how I see it now.
Only now are we able to compete with the top six on keeping our best players, and even then it's not guaranteed, either to keep them around, or prove to be a wise investment (see Le Celso, and Tanguy).
I have no idea what the answer is, the Brentford game was awful, i'm not sure if Conte is happy, if Poch is waiting in the wings so giving Levy a safety blanket. Part of my thinks Patrici is now in charge of transfers, so if he has the budget why is all this falling at the feet of Levy.
Do I want a oligarch, sheik, or an American owner coming in with all that BS...? No not really. Do I want this tight ENIC tenure to end, sometimes yes. I'm probably too trusting, but working in sports marketing, advertising and branding, a lot of what they're doing from a commercial POV makes sense and will reward THFC. I do have a sinking feeling Conte will be off in the summe
r and the merry-go-round will start again, along with Son, Kane and Lloris leaving.
Levy has overseen the breaking up of Poch's team and everything else that has happened, since Dembele left Spurs in January 2019, is on Levy and ENIC.
Levy and ENIC have to back this manager. He was their choice.
So was Jose.
ENIC should either fund Conte for the players he needs or put the club up for sale and do the right thing by the supporters for once.
ENIC's ownership of Spurs is reaching it's conclusion.
Their business model brought them moderate success in the mid to late noughties but football is continually evolving and they are looking increasingly like yesterday's men.
Their methods don't work any more.
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With Conte we essentially spunked the Sarr, Gil & Spence money up the wall ... they will not get a sniff of gametime.
Eh ?
It's not moral grandstanding, it's a fact.
Our revenue is way higher than theirs.
There is no way they could afford to spend 200m on players in their normal business model.
Newcastle United to make £179m-plus announcement - sources
Football Insider has learned that Newcastle United are set to announce club-record revenue of over £179million when they release their next set of accounts.
heavy spending in the transfer market following the Saudi Public Investment Fund’s takeover in October last year has led to an increase in amortisation and means the club is forecasted to present a total loss approaching £50m.
Eh ?
It's not moral grandstanding, it's a fact.
Our revenue is way higher than theirs.
There is no way they could afford to spend 200m on players in their normal business model.
Newcastle United to make £179m-plus announcement - sources
Football Insider has learned that Newcastle United are set to announce club-record revenue of over £179million when they release their next set of accounts.www.footballinsider247.com
heavy spending in the transfer market following the Saudi Public Investment Fund’s takeover in October last year has led to an increase in amortisation and means the club is forecasted to present a total loss approaching £50m.
Yes ... the problem is that this isn't relevant to my point. Obviously it's not wealth they generated, but I actually don't care where it came from .. it's irrelevant to me.
I care how they used it. And they used it better than we did.
Nelson & Sara were years ago and no longer relevent.
I also would have preferred to have won something like Leicester but why just blame Levy? Did Leicester spend big? or was it the Manager and players that did it. I have just done a long post blaming Levy for not incentivising winning a trophy but he does give incentivises to win the PL. Leicester winning the PL actually reinforces the view that it is not just throwing money at spending the most on players that wins the league although clearly a big part.
Ah right.
That I can agree with.
I've said many, many times on here that our recruitment process in the past has been a shambles.
It has improved massively with Paratici in place
You have just backed up my view that many fans are not interested in winning a trophy as we incentivise the PL & Cl when in it with little chance at present of winning either. Strange that the big boys consistently win the domestic cups and Kane is constantly quoted as wanting to win a trophy and not just play CL.
Ours 100 %
They got lucky and have sold all their best players recently.
It wouldn't surprise me if they got relegated in the next few years or so.
You do realise that saying "Nelsen and Saha" is right up there with "I remember the 90s".
Why not say we pissed 100m up the wall on Ndombele and Lo Celso.
The summer transfers haven't exactly exploded in to life .. but I'm not going to criticise that too harshly because I was pro the likes of Bissouma & Richarlison so it would be hypocriticial of me. Richarlison has also been injured tbf.
We had a fantastic Jan window where he used his Juve connections well & Bentancur/Kulu exceeded all expectations but before that we had a mixed summer with Emerson/Gil/Romero etc. I think it's improved but still feels like we lack consistency. Not a problem unique to Spurs tbf.
i am not sure, winning a league is like the lottery for us, im still doubtful we will do it in my lifetime and im 32
i would def take a league title win
We're definitely at a crossroads now imo.
As you say, it's how we use our resources not how much we spend that counts.
I truly believe that's what Conte meant when he said that we can't afford mistakes (such as Ndombele) in the transfer market.
We need due diligence on every aspect of a player, not just raw ability.
Ndombele's an annoying one because I'm not going to lie and pretend I wasn't very excited when we signed him .. what I'd seen of him I was very impressed by and it felt like that signing the fans had been crying out for.
But then you dig a little deeper and yeah .. was it smart to invest that much in a player who had well documented attitude issues?
I was never pro Lo Celso. Was a ghost at PSG and he wasn't the first & won't be the last tidy midfielder to do well for some mid table Spanish club .. investing that much based on that seemed madness to me at the time.
I hear you, honestly I do.
It's mostly fake clubs that win it now.
There will be the odd anomaly though.
Leicester won it through luck mostly, and maybe asthma treatments.
It wasn't down to good management of the club.
I loved watching Ndombele on the ball, so silky, skilful and put a smile on your face.
Shame about the rest of his game.
id rather be in the CL every year than win a league cup. if youre in the CL you should have a decent side/squad and you have more money and a better opportunity to build on and really compete. a poxy league cup does fuck all, any mug can win that if city go out. puts you in B tech europe, would put us back 4 steps crashing out of CL to win a tin pot cup.
kane would be ridiculed far more if at the end of his career the only trophies hes won is league and FA cups...hes better off winning nothing and being in the CL every year. you think barca, madrid or bayern would brag about winning the europa league?
I never said it was only money , it helps for sure . My point is he is the CEO and has no consistent strategy DOF, no DOF , DOF , no DOF , rinse and repeat
Project manager , Quick fix manager , Project manager , quick fix manager , even quicker fix manager
Really uninspiring to me , no discernible strategy after 23 years
We’ve been closer to winning the CL than the FA Cup or League cup too!
Is this where we are with Conteball tactics and team selections?
Sentimental about the Burger King?
Longing for the 'golden age'?
