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Transfers January 2023 Transfer Thread. The Big One
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100% agree on the manager part but flip flopping between how they view the owners based on about 7 months difference is abit silly because they aren't just going to leave. It's much easier to change a manager than owners.
Nope, not crying.
Just making a point that the majority of football fans are very fickle.
That’s true but the underlying model of ownership looks stale which is the biggest issue. We look like we are operating on the pitch like it’s the 00’s with short term opportunist transfer policies, world has changed. Where once we looked forward thinking we now look outdated, we are like New Labour.
The club has two choices in my view.
1 sell to Qatar or a big investor which means we can afford the players Conte needs for quick results.
2 don’t sell but go down the Brighton/Dortmund model and buy top quality young players, with a elite project manager and top draw scouting which is a long term view.
The current Cheque book manager with a limited cheque book which forces opportunism as the mode will leave us 4-8th on a repeated cycle. Without change at the top we are just going round in circles.
You must be a fair age. I’m 42 and started supporting spurs in 87 and I’ve seen a grand total of 3 trophies
I started supporting us the same year and I’m fed up of it all. That’s why I’ve sold my soul for the sports washed money and have no qualms about saying it. I pay thousands of pounds a year for a season ticket for what feels like no real point.
I don’t tolerate the level of failure in any other aspect of my life other than the one Spurs give me and I’m fed up of it. Almost as fed up as reading the same thing in here by the same people every transfer window.
Bring me the new money. Then I can read from the same people moaning why they haven’t spent £500 million every window. Because they will.
Buck stops with Levy
I’m on the same boat as long as we are not taken over by an Abramavic type.
It’s going to happen sooner or later spurs are primed for a takeover we have everything in place to become a huge winning club we just need investment in top players year after year
Sad, funny and true.....
If you remember the FA cup you should remember 2 league cups.
Levy been stuck on just the 1 for 13 years though
It doesn’t, ENIC own spurs and Joe Lewis owns the majority of ENIC
This is a little off topic, but in fairness this is spot on.
All the transfer spend stuff has little effect on my perception of ENIC, you can buy loads of different players in and they can amount to nothing, see Chelsea.
The ENIC problem is no one can tell you what their view is, are they going to back Conte to the hilt? Because when they hired him, they knew they weren't hiring a kindly patient coach with a 5 year plan, they were buying a monster who would demand ready made players and go if he didn't get what he wants, which is unlike any other manager they hired, Mourinho possibly the exception but his stock was low at the time we hired him.
Point is ENIC like project managers, they liked AVB, Poch, the type of manager who would be undemanding and work to a schedule and be undemanding on transfer funds. Which I can almost accept when we're playing good football and there's clear progression. With Conte, it just makes it look like we're careering between different extremes and there's not a clear vision as to what ENIC really want to achieve out of the club.
That, to me, is the reason I want them out, I don't understand what they're trying to turn us in to and under Conte, the quality of football we're playing just isn't particularly fun to watch. They've basically ran out of ideas.
The on the pitch vision has always been my issue. We are spending more, spending was a huge issue during the Poch era but there is some cash now. We have a clear off the pitch vision but little on the pitch. Levy is an economist and we look like we are run by an economist in every way for good and bad.
Yeah don’t disagree with you in theory but in practice it’s always going to be that way.
Tbh I’m not fully ENIC out. Not a fan of City buying the Prem and never wanted Spurs to go that way. The whole project under Poch was more like Dortmund and compete with less until the new stadium. Whole club felt together at that time.
Now the stadium is here, we have gone the big club model on manager hires and ticket prices but not transfers. That’s my opinion. People disagree with me, that’s fine. What’s not debatable is that until we win we are a pretend big club. Can ENIC deliver? History says no.
Amazing that this has to be explained, literally, on a daily basis........
Yep.
Conte is coming up for two years. His entire approach relies on WBs. We still have our worst players in those positions.
Looks like Porro is a no go due to the nature of the payment, and there’s no particular reason why things will change in the Summer.
It’s just abysmal team management.
Yeah completely fair opinion.
I actually think that our transfers have improved since Paratici has come in. The only one that has been questionable is Emerson, I think the rest have been an improvement on recent years.
It is frustrating that it takes 2 or three windows to get to this point but that's the way it is under this ownership. It's not gonna change.
We do haggle over fees but in recent years the higher money we've played for players those players have never worked out so to a certain extent Levy gets proved right.
Our scouting system has been the issue over the years.
This is perhaps more where I'm at. I don't think we exist in the world of extreme 'having a poster of levy at home' or 'finding every non Tottenham Hotspur game event at the ground is a spit in the face of the real fans', all bollocks!
ENIC have been here long enough to make a measured judgement, I'd like them to hand the reigns over to someone with a clearer long term view of making the club successful, preferably a someone who isn't a country trying to use the club to sports wash their reputation clean but let's not act like any of us have a choice.
The 'big club' argument, ah, there's loads of metrics to what that is, I can prove it or disprove it, the bottom line is how happy you feel following the club at the end of the day.
You are the platonic form of a shit fan on the internet.
It's pretty much bollocks that's why.... I can't think of any regular poster here that is overtly pro-ENIC and is not prepared to criticise them in one fashion or another.
Some are merely not Anti-ENIC, some are anti-sportswashing; but all the "Levy-fan", "ENIC_lovers" and "bow to your lords" shit is just that.... Childish bullshit that people reach for when they can't muster a strong enough argument to further their point.
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I agree. I think we are the perfect club for someone with unlimited funds to take over. All they need to do is spend money on the team. Everything else is done for them. Eg. At Man Utd whoever buys them need to spend £2 billion on building a new stadium. We are good to go.
All we need is ENIC not to be greedy on the price and also be a willing seller (of part or whole). Trouble is, I don’t trust them not to be.
If we get taken over by Qataris in the entirety there’s no way anyone would be able to defend them other than ask why they aren’t spending up to the ffp limit every window.