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Why have you failed to deal with the fact I said that in response to a false accusation of trolling? That was the context. Comment on the actual context or sit down - no one wants to read your silly little diatribes.

If you don’t agree I am trolling with my views then you have nothing to say.
Don’t waste your time. He’s a child. I actually agree with a fair amount of what he says but he’s probably the most provocative poster on here and does not make discussion enjoyable.
 
You don’t. Yet again you mistake yourself for everyone else, despite being deeply unpopular. But of course, everyone else is wrong, right?

You are a troll. You constantly wind people up deliberately by insulting their intelligence. You post blatantly inflammatory crap all the time.

You also post seriously sometimes & I genuinely just think you’re a big fan of Levy. But there is no denying you regularly post on the wind up. Your posts often STINK of it.
My views and posts on spurs are always thoughtful and balanced. You can disagree with them but that doesn’t make me a troll.

Let’s leave this here. When you shout SHILL and when you fail to call out people on your side who are abusive and aggressive or say things like « rabid regime enthusiasts » then you aren’t interested in protecting any particular value… you’re interested in attacking people who disagree with you and protecting people who agree with you.

It’s most unbecoming.
 
That's true. It's the nature of fans in all sports. If it isn't a championship then everyone and everything is wrong. I think teams should be playing at or just above their revenue rank. Spurs don't seem to manage that. The irony is I think a lot of fans would settle for being properly entertained.

Yes I think the Nuno, Mourinho & Conte appointments betrayed our DNA.

Levy talked about the Spurs way & then brought those in ffs!!

I kind of see why he did it with the last 2 as both massive names but they were not what was needed.

Get someone in who plays the right brand of attacking football again.
Yeah we all want success but most understand there are no guarantees.

Give us some style & panache again

Let's be the entertainers👍.
 
Don’t waste your time. He’s a child. I actually agree with a fair amount of what he says but he’s probably the most provocative poster on here and does not make discussion enjoyable.

My god that’s like your fourth post in a week about me when I don’t even reply to your posts unless they’re specifically about me.

Fan mentality.
 
My views and posts on spurs are always thoughtful and balanced. You can disagree with them but that doesn’t make me a troll.

Let’s leave this here. When you shout SHILL and when you fail to call out people on your side who are abusive and aggressive or say things like « rabid regime enthusiasts » then you aren’t interested in protecting any particular value… you’re interested in attacking people who disagree with you and protecting people who agree with you.

It’s most unbecoming.

It’s like smashing your head against a brick wall. Calling your own posts thoughtful is so funny.

And yeah, because all those posts you’ve made criticising Shady for a post aimed at people with disabilities .. give it a rest, you being called a shill isn’t that deep.
 
I totally agree Levy/Enic have not made the best decisions lately.
However people always take the 'best example' say Brighton now to hold up against us.

Very few will say:
We are still top 8 we have hit a slump & while not ideal, at least we aren't in danger of relegation like Everton or Leeds

2 big clubs btw who have both won more titles than us for balance.

I'm sure both would give their right arm to be where we are.


Of course we want to do better but I just find that many fans have a lack of genuine perspective at times & can come across as somewhat 'entitled'

You're a good poster, make sure you stick around fella 💪
 
Yes I think the Nuno, Mourinho & Conte appointments betrayed our DNA.

Levy talked about the Spurs way & then brought those in ffs!!

I kind of see why he did it with the last 2 as both massive names but they were not what was needed.

Get someone in who plays the right brand of attacking football again.
Yeah we all want success but most understand there are no guarantees.

Give us some style & panache again

Let's be the entertainers👍.
If either of them won something, would anyone have cared about DNA?

The big problem is that the peak level the ENIC model is built for was under Poch and no manner of expensive cheque book managers could get past the hard ceiling set by the clubs financial model.

Can they build another Poch with slightly more finances again? Let’s see. Not much faith in them from fans right now tho.
 
I don’t know if you needed to share that.

But it makes complete sense to me that nothing would be done before the end of the season. These 60 day countdowns are ridiculous - journalists have nothing to talk about because they don’t know anything

I didn't but I couldn't believe how ridiculous people can be and the lengths they need to go to, it's public information regardless and the tweet's been deleted anyway.
 
I totally agree Levy/Enic have not made the best decisions lately.
However people always take the 'best example' say Brighton now to hold up against us.

Very few will say:
We are still top 8 we have hit a slump & while not ideal, at least we aren't in danger of relegation like Everton or Leeds

2 big clubs btw who have both won more titles than us for balance.

I'm sure both would give their right arm to be where we are.


Of course we want to do better but I just find that many fans have a lack of genuine perspective at times & can come across as somewhat 'entitled'
I'll take a mid-table or lower finish if I feel the team gave their all to make it happen, that they played to the best of their ability. That didn't happen this season in any way, shape or form. The team checked out of every possible opportunity for achievement. The season promised so much and we've just thrown it all away. We didn't even try to win a trophy.

And what do we check out of next? Will the team feel that it doesn't matter if we finish in the top half of the table next season? And then if we're in the bottom half it doesn't matter if we go down a bit further into the relegation dogfight and then maybe it doesn't even matter if we stay in the Premier League? Where does it end? Do we just concede everything and throw 141 years of history down the toilet?
 
Do you think these sorts of things are normal for football clubs or do you think most clubs manage to avoid these situations?

Do you think there are any other ways of measuring the success of a football club apart from managerial turnover ?
You miss the point - Managers/coaches get sacked all the time. What isn’t normal is to basically send out the signal that the season has been abandoned and he’s done that 5 times.

If he had a competent club structure in place (sporting director etc) then we’d have a far greater chance of ensuring continuity and the “down” seasons wouldn’t seem so utterly disastrous.
 
If either of them won something, would anyone have cared about DNA?

The big problem is that the peak level the ENIC model is built for was under Poch and no manner of expensive cheque book managers could get past the hard ceiling set by the clubs financial model.

Can they build another Poch with slightly more finances again? Let’s see. Not much faith in them from fans right now tho.
Yeah I get that & if we had got silverware you are probably right. Sacking Mourinho days before a final was very strange.

We spent 180m under Conte but you have the issue of manager v club signings .

It's obvious these type of managers & Enic do not make good bedfellows so they shouldn't employ them.

As you say they need another Poch with extra finances.

Recruitment is a weird thing though, I don't think you should give total control to the manager. Sometimes also you just need a bit of luck.

I was reading something the other day stating Mo Salah was not Klopps choice. Said he was about the 4th choice wide forward on a list they drew up.
 
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I'll take a mid-table or lower finish if I feel the team gave their all to make it happen, that they played to the best of their ability. That didn't happen this season in any way, shape or form. The team checked out of every possible opportunity for achievement. The season promised so much and we've just thrown it all away. We didn't even try to win a trophy.

And what do we check out of next? Will the team feel that it doesn't matter if we finish in the top half of the table next season? And then if we're in the bottom half it doesn't matter if we go down a bit further into the relegation dogfight and then maybe it doesn't even matter if we stay in the Premier League? Where does it end? Do we just concede everything and throw 141 years of history down the toilet?
I get it but that's what happens with uncertainty over the manager, you leave a vacuum.

Maybe if Conte had kept his mouth shut & carried on til the end of the season as he was being paid big money to do we finish higher?
He didn't want that & through a hissy.

Look at Man U last season under ragnick the players pretty much stopped trying.

Look at Chelsea this season same thing. They have got worse post potter.

So It's not something exclusive to us.

Footballers are pretty much like children at school.
Without the right teacher they will lose interest.

A good DOF is probably also a vital appointment.
 
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