While taking no blame himself. That's the biggest issue I had with the interview.
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You're being utterly ignorant to the whole DOF process...... Willyfully so; cos the same things have been pointed out to you over and over and over and over again.
Paraticci was in control.... As he was supposed to be. That doesn't mean that Conte had no input... He admits that himself.
I have no idea if that's true, but considering the amount of bullshit they lap up over there, the obvious answer is: They are the type of people who don't question authority.
That the fans have no patience:
Angry Antonio Conte turns on Tottenham fans for lacking ‘patience’
Antonio Conte has taken aim at Richarlison and accused Tottenham supporters of lacking patience in a fiery press conferencewww.theguardian.com
Which is funny cause fans were chanting his name throughout the season despite the dire football.
He turned on everyone and everything........ His post AC Milan pressers were a disgrace.
Exactly the same logic every single season.
And exactly the same thing happens where we're woefully short for opening games.
Utterly disgusting from Daniel Greedy.
No doubt the Levy fanbois with Fritzel Syndrome will figure out a way of making it acceptable by the end of the day.
Quote me all you like bitches - you're all on ignore
Can someone do a comparison between our ticket prices vs Woolwich ticket prices; and then between Woolwich's expenditure on football vs ours?Exactly the same logic every single season.
And exactly the same thing happens where we're woefully short for opening games.
Utterly disgusting from Daniel Greedy.
No doubt the Levy fanbois with Fritzel Syndrome will figure out a way of making it acceptable by the end of the day.
Quote me all you like bitches - you're all on ignore
It's literally a disgrace.
It’s hard to average out out prices as there is a such a wide range.
Our lowest priced tickets are comparative but there’s less than 5% at that banding
Pure expenditure only tells half the story. They move quickly and sign their managers primary targets. We flap around and settle for alternatives whether they want them or not.
From the beginning there were people politicising Conte’s appointment.
“Now we’ve hired a winner - there’s nowhere left to hide”
“What I like most about Conte is he tells it how it is - he won’t take any shit from Levy”.
Anything other than success was framed as a way to hold Levy accountable.
The problem with that of course is that it’s not as easy as hiring a successful manager and then success comes as some kind of natural consequence. There are more successful managers than trophies available.
The evidence (rather than narrative) tells us that Conte did not manage to coach the side effectively and that we never looked like a side where the talents available were being used well. To illustrate that, here are the teams Conte was knocked out by:
Chelsea
Middlesbrough
Nottingham Forest
Sheffield united
AC Milan
I’d say a top coach bringing some fairy dust should have been able to win 4 of those games. I’d expect even Nuno to have won 3 of those games.
The fact is Conte did a poor job. Conte wasn’t the only reason - Levy must also take responsibility… but the quality of the coaching was poor and has been since Poch left.
Fortunately the early signs seem to be very good under Ange. We won’t need to rely on fairy dust because we’ll be able to see the results of the coaching on the pitch.
“Now we’ve hired a winner - there’s nowhere left to hide”
“What I like most about Conte is he tells it how it is - he won’t take any shit from Levy”.
Anything other than success was framed as a way to hold Levy accountable.
The problem with that of course is that it’s not as easy as hiring a successful manager and then success comes as some kind of natural consequence. There are more successful managers than trophies available.
The evidence (rather than narrative) tells us that Conte did not manage to coach the side effectively and that we never looked like a side where the talents available were being used well. To illustrate that, here are the teams Conte was knocked out by:
Chelsea
Middlesbrough
Nottingham Forest
Sheffield united
AC Milan
I’d say a top coach bringing some fairy dust should have been able to win 4 of those games. I’d expect even Nuno to have won 3 of those games.
The fact is Conte did a poor job. Conte wasn’t the only reason - Levy must also take responsibility… but the quality of the coaching was poor and has been since Poch left.
Fortunately the early signs seem to be very good under Ange. We won’t need to rely on fairy dust because we’ll be able to see the results of the coaching on the pitch.
Good post, both Levy and Conte completely shit the bed. Both are jointly accountable
Ok Antonio. You win, nothing was your fault
You've shown your opinion is poor a lot today. The fact that very few CB's moved shows it wouldn't matter how much we tried the CB's weren't moving.
NOBODY paid Kim Min-Jae's 14m release clause - conclusion is every other club thought it too high at the time. He went to Turkey for 5m at the end of the window.
Lenglet - you've pretty much repeated my post in different words. Another set would be Conte went for an experienced CB rather than the chancier option of Kim Min-Jae and sadly he was wrong, otherwise our CB options would be more healthy than today.
Likewise insisting on Porro was a mistake - we could have bought ourselves a decent CB which we needed, rather than a more experienced Spence with all the same basic faults - fine going forwards but a liability in defence. Same issues with Perisic on the left - likely Conte's requirements of a wing back would only work in Serie A but not the faster and more physically demanding PL
Wages and net trf fees since we moved back into the the new stadium don't show the chasm you're suggesting....... Far from it.
I don't know about the current season, but their ticket prices were higher than ours in certain respects when this subject last arose too.
It seems to have been that way for years, too. Never mind a pinch of salt - a mountain of salt for anything coming out of there.
Good post.
Personally think that post Poch, when our squad was on its last legs (and Poch seemed to have lost squad from March 2019 onwards hence bad PL results, squad just contested CL matches) and appalling squad management from 2016-20 both in squad buying and fauilutre to bring youngsters through, we needed a 'project manager' to rebuild Spurs.
Mourhino was hired I suspect to see if he could get the squad together and start a rebuild (although with covid always difficult) objective plus get europe, preferably CL. However he reverted to his defensive type after hammering ManU 6-1, and with it results deteriorated.
Rather than hiring Conte I'd certainly have gone for the 'project manager' rather than the 'star manager to get CL' ...... but I think too many fans would have been saying 'Levy's gone for cheap option' .
Indeed Eddie Howe who joined Newcastle in 2021 a year after leaving Bournemouth would have been a good choice - and I see similarities with Ange in the appointment of a manager more likely to build the squad from the bottom up.
But we are where we are, but fans probably as guilty as Ley in going for Conte .......
This doesn’t necessarily follow.
To my knowledge, KMJ did not have a release clause of 14m in China. That may well have been what Beijing Guoan were asking.
Neither we nor anyone else were going to pay that for a player untested above the Chinese Super League. We offered 5m which they would not accept. Eventually he was transferred to Fener for considerably less than we offered.
After being successful in both Turkey and Italy, his value has changed as would our perception of him.
My guess is that he just has suitors higher up the food chain (Bayern) now.
We were strongly linked with James Maddison when he was at Norwich but, obviously, weren’t inclined to match Leicester’s 20m or so but, here we are, paying double for the same player. His value has changed as has our perception of that value.
owned by Charlie? Dopey cunt
I know your replying to someone else mate but honestly, it's reached the point where people can't even mention the L word now for fear of being jumped all over by the mob on here... . Like you with your reply to the innocuous post by nicoclaesen .
It really does feel like the forum has been hijacked by a dozen or so self styled vigilantes trying to act the role of forum moderator and decide what is and isn't relevant.
The fact is, L***y and E**C are relevant to other threads. Particularly this one.
People are burying their heads in the sand and then getting angry and upset if others don't do the same.
You're new here. But I can tell you now there's an awful lot of good, passionate long standing posters who now rarely, if ever take part because quite frankly they're sick and tired of it.
Danjuma.
Out of interest, why do you think we signed him. You don't think Conte was begging for him do you?