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Your post was pure hysterical conjecture.
Your argument was that this bad thing will affect our reputation enough to stop us doing things we need to do. I gave a COUNTER-EXAMPLE to show that another club doing FAR WORSE things hasn’t stopped them at all which undermines your claim that bad guy owners stop their club from doing stuff.
Words like « whatabouttery » are not a substitute for thinking.
Currently this has nothing to do with the club or Levy as it stands. Long as they keep their heads down and get on with supporting the manager (big if!) it won’t impact us.
However to say it’s embarrassing is an understatement. Owned by a crook is not a good look and yes we have dictators running clubs in the league but we are part of the mud now.
However to say it’s embarrassing is an understatement. Owned by a crook is not a good look and yes we have dictators running clubs in the league but we are part of the mud now.
Of course it will affect our reputation. Its yet another embarrassment. I care about the club and it not being humilated not the current owners who are just passing through. As for Newcastle, yes players will want to sign for them because of the lure of money and upcoming success, similar to sponsors but they're not pretending to do it 'the right way' . Lets not kid ourselves they are popular and not reviled elsewhere. For the record i wouldnt want their owners either.
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I wonder what his comeuppance will be? Probably a fine that he can easily afford to pay.
In what way ? So far we have seen no defence ( like his football club
). Innocent until proven otherwise. Also the average sentence handed out in such cases seems to be about 18 months.
He’s in his late 80’s. He ain’t doing 18 hours inside. And the maximum individual fine is, it seems, $5m. $6.6 billion less $5m is about half of one Matt Doherty
. Uncle Joe’s pool ain’t going cold. Worse case he accepts the charge, does a deal and moves on.Without “Tottenham” being part of the story there really does not seem to be any reason for the headline news. And he is no longer connected to Spurs in a personally significant way ( allegedly )
There is something odd about the whole thing. It’s not exactly nice how Billionaire Joe made his cash way back when. So finding out that he has no morals is not exactly good detective work.
All this mere hours after we hear that David “the porn king” Sullivan left Loughton cop shop, but that’s not news.
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Doubt it will be a fine.
19 counts.
Securities fraud, conspiracy to commit said frauds etc. Mind you, at his age by the time it goes to trial ( if it does ) , won't matter.
Does Not excuse the cunt.
'Whataboutery'
I give to you the defence of the Enic acolyte
I think we are looking at this in so far as the chances of Lewis being guilty are extremely high. The US Government is not in the habit of bringing charges against foreign billionaires without a very strong case.
They aren't taking an educated guess that they have something on Lewis. I'd say they are 95% certain of getting a conviction.
This will affect the 'fit & proper' test for owning a PL team, right?
Perhaps he'll sign over ENIC fully to Levy. That would lead to some internal combustion on here!!
Perhaps he'll sign over ENIC fully to Levy. That would lead to some internal combustion on here!!
Ive already explained why it’s not whatabboutery. Whatabouttery is when you try to deflect from a moral wrong by saying others have done it too. Clearly different from what I was doing.
Let me help you with a counter argument though.
1) You could argue there’s a difference between Lewis and Saudi Arabia that means Tottenham would be affected but Newcastle would not.
2) You could argue Newcastle have been affected.
3) You could argue the connection between Saudi Arabia and Newcastle is materially different than the connection between Lewis and Tottenham and that this difference would be important to those who we do business with.
There are other possible replies too but this isn’t whatabouttery.
I don’t know about that, this whole operation is part of a huge crackdown in America on illegal/insider trading, they are looking to make examples of people, especially foreigners getting rich there. Fining a filthy rich guy really isn’t gonna make much of an impact. Seizing property and assets would be the next step up, prison? Might be a stretch to far.
ENIC owns us not Lewis. Nowhere does Lewis name show on any paperwork of the club or ENIC anymore as far as I know. It was passed on to 2 family members. Lewis has known this has been coming.This will affect the 'fit & proper' test for owning a PL team, right?
Perhaps he'll sign over ENIC fully to Levy. That would lead to some internal combustion on here!!
Haha he gets frustrated with anything anti THFC and I get that. He’s been critical of Levy unlike the other maniacs who staunchly defend every action their tyrannical leader takes