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Re: Saudi, I had a beer with an ex player involved in the PFA on Friday…. Apparently the PL clubs are terrified of Saudi and are trying to shut down efforts them joining the CL and expect it to be game over for the PL when UEFA let them in the next few years. Will be a changing of the guard and the Saudis will really go big at that point and wrestle sponsorships, TV deals etc and be the big player a few years after. They did it with golf and they will do it with football

I actually thought they would somehow buy UEFA or start their own Super League with Barca, Juve etc but this seems more plausible
 
Re: Saudi, I had a beer with an ex player involved in the PFA on Friday…. Apparently the PL clubs are terrified of Saudi and are trying to shut down efforts them joining the CL and expect it to be game over for the PL when UEFA let them in the next few years. Will be a changing of the guard and the Saudis will really go big at that point and wrestle sponsorships, TV deals etc and be the big player a few years after. They did it with golf and they will do it with football

I actually thought they would somehow buy UEFA or start their own Super League with Barca, Juve etc but this seems more plausible
I'm still not convinced. Players talk to each other. Sure the money is great but the fans, prestige, atmosphere etc can't be the best. When we start seeing top players below the age of 25 heading out there then I'll be concerned.

Neves, Jota and ASM were all surprise ones, but these are hardly elite players, albeit Neves is a very good player.
 
I'm still not convinced. Players talk to each other. Sure the money is great but the fans, prestige, atmosphere etc can't be the best. When we start seeing top players below the age of 25 heading out there then I'll be concerned.

Neves, Jota and ASM were all surprise ones, but these are hardly elite players, albeit Neves is a very good player.
This has all happened in six months. They will have a clear strategy and objective, they aren’t just blindly spending with no goal. The CL makes sense

They have unlimited money - they will pay player £1M per week, the differential is so vast that they will go when they are in the CL. Might not be a bad thing for us as a club tbh
 
This has all happened in six months. They will have a clear strategy and objective, they aren’t just blindly spending with no goal. The CL makes sense

They have unlimited money - they will pay player £1M per week, the differential is so vast that they will go when they are in the CL. Might not be a bad thing for us as a club tbh
Will be fascinating to see how the PL adapts then if it does continue to grow out there. Personally I'd have very little interest in watching any of the games. I don't even watch La Liga or Bundesliga games, so I can't see myself tuning in to watch a bunch of clubs that I couldn't care less about. The TV deals are the real money spinner - I'm not convinced by how many people will be prepared to pay to watch Saudi club football, but we'll see.
 
Will be fascinating to see how the PL adapts then if it does continue to grow out there. Personally I'd have very little interest in watching any of the games. I don't even watch La Liga or Bundesliga games, so I can't see myself tuning in to watch a bunch of clubs that I couldn't care less about. The TV deals are the real money spinner - I'm not convinced by how many people will be prepared to pay to watch Saudi club football, but we'll see.
I agree that English people will have little interest but they are likely after the more fickle international fans that have only started watching PL in the last five or ten years and are wowed by big name players. We aren’t their target

They dominate boxing and golf already
 
I'm still not convinced. Players talk to each other. Sure the money is great but the fans, prestige, atmosphere etc can't be the best. When we start seeing top players below the age of 25 heading out there then I'll be concerned.

Neves, Jota and ASM were all surprise ones, but these are hardly elite players, albeit Neves is a very good player.
Jota is very good as well, I would've loved us to sign him.
 
The thing with the Saudi league is that it takes more than just great players, you need great clubs, history, rivalry, atmosphere - things you just can’t buy or manufacture.

They aren’t going to have a Tottenham vs Woolwich, Liverpool vs United. They don’t have iconic stadiums, they don’t have the history.

Give the 2 best Saudis teams all the greatest players in the world and have them play each other at the same time as Liverpool vs United - both fielding decent sides without superstars and no one is watching the Saudi game.
 
The thing with the Saudi league is that it takes more than just great players, you need great clubs, history, rivalry, atmosphere - things you just can’t buy or manufacture.

They aren’t going to have a Tottenham vs Woolwich, Liverpool vs United. They don’t have iconic stadiums, they don’t have the history.

Give the 2 best Saudis teams all the greatest players in the world and have them play each other at the same time as Liverpool vs United - both fielding decent sides without superstars and no one is watching the Saudi game.
No-one? No English fan will but do you think the millions of Ronaldo fans in Africa and the Phillipines care for the history? It will be awful to us but it’s coming
 
The thing with the Saudi league is that it takes more than just great players, you need great clubs, history, rivalry, atmosphere - things you just can’t buy or manufacture.

They aren’t going to have a Tottenham vs Woolwich, Liverpool vs United. They don’t have iconic stadiums, they don’t have the history.

Give the 2 best Saudis teams all the greatest players in the world and have them play each other at the same time as Liverpool vs United - both fielding decent sides without superstars and no one is watching the Saudi game.
I see your point...

But I'm not so sure. I don't really know so much about the demographic itself, but I get the feeling the 14-25year old fan these days, because of the baked in effects of the social media/ esports era, are just after the big stars and wow moments to duke it out on who's the best or favourite or the thing right now and how they rank in FIFA.

I believe they are going to be the catchment audience for emerging markets, and Saudi is one.

Prestige, history & traditions might matter to 30yr olds+, that probably make up most of this forum, but I believe that's fading in the younger generations.
 
I see your point...

But I'm not so sure. I don't really know so much about the demographic itself, but I get the feeling the 14-25year old fan these days, because of the baked in effects of the social media/ esports era, are just after the big stars and wow moments to duke it out on who's the best or favourite or the thing right now and how they rank in FIFA.

I believe they are going to be the catchment audience for emerging markets, and Saudi is one.

Prestige, history & traditions might matter to 30yr olds+, that probably make up most of this forum, but I believe that's fading in the younger generations.
100%. Certainly the case in other markets imo
 
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