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If that's the case then ban him from coming anywhere near the club and just keep paying him for the next two years. If he is ok with that then fuck him and take the financial hit.
You can’t do that because he has done nothing serious enough to dismiss him for. You can guarantee levy would have binned him off if he had grounds.
He has a contract with us to train and make himself available to play. He has no god given right to play but the club has to provide him with the tools (ie the clubs facilities) to fulfil his side of the contract.
Why would he agree to your proposal, when he can get his whole contract paid up front because he has been constructively dismissed by the club & get himself a nice new contract elsewhere?

If he is happy to sit at home wanking/eating/playing fifa all day, then he won’t have a career in 2 years, having lost any shred of fitness he ever had as an athlete. It would basically be retirement for him, which the club pays for anyway.

Unless he’s in breach of contract, he can demand to be allowed to fulfil it and you can’t take away the facilities he needs to fulfil the contract without constructively dismissing him.
 
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You can’t do that because he has done nothing serious enough to dismiss him for. You can guarantee levy would have binned him off if he had grounds.
He has a contract with us to train and make himself available to play. He has no god given right to play but the club has to provide him with the tools (ie the clubs facilities) to fulfil his side of the contract.
Why would he agree to that, when he can get his whole contract paid up front because he has been constructively dismissed by the club & get himself a nice new contract elsewhere?

If he is happy to sit at home wanking/eating/playing fifa all day, then he won’t have a career in 2 years, having lost any shred of fitness he ever had as an athlete. It would basically be retirement for him, which the club pays for anyway.

Unless he’s in breach of contract, he can demand to be allowed to fulfil it and you can’t take away the facilities he needs to fulfil the contract without constructively dismissing him.
Levy could do an Archway on him and burn him down
 
After 2 games you're writing off Kulu, Son & Richarlison? A bit early. New manager, new system, etc.

We still have Solomon, the young Argentine and possibly Scarlett waiting in the wings. So I'm prepared to give our forward more time.

Our defence is very poor though, no depth.
You're not wrong, but Richy is never going to cut it imho. Decent hold-up play but zero awareness in the box.

Kulu is very capable but disappoints more than he excites. We now see why Juve were so compliant on the deal.

The young Argentine probably won't play before Xmas if at all this season.

Scarlett is an interesting one though. There is hope there.
 
Players have a strong union, you can't put them on gardening leave. Pretty sure (can't find the link right now) you tell him to stay home he can take to tribunal with full wages and released.

As long as he is turning up for training, even if you make him train with the youth, he is fulfilling his contract.

I'll take a look later but pretty sure this is right.
Of course you can. The league imposes a limit of 25 players. If they player doesn't find a new club and doesn't make the squad there's nothing else for them to do

Unions can go fuck themselves.
 
Not assuming anything

It’s called negotiation

Quite the cunning plan, until it falls down when you realise that both parties need to negotiate to come to an agreement. 😆

You say you're not assuming anything yet you made a giant assumption to think that the club haven't already done what you just proposed :confused:

Are you alright?
 
Top managers /CEO /traders get payouts all the time in the real world, if they can negotiate it when getting the job and you can't prove gross negligence. If you're at the top of your game and in demand you can put lots of provisions into your contract that are not standard for us plebs.
More often than not when the boss is pushed out and hasn't deliberately decided he wants a new job so gets himself sacked.
If anyone in the real world done that they'd pretty much forgoe a penny in compensation
 
And am I in a world where someone doesn’t understand that doing what you suggest is constructive dismissal?
Most people in the normal world would take the gardening leave and do exactly that. So no issue at all.
However, if said employee doesn’t accept it, & you prevent them from coming to their place of work for no other reason that you don’t want them there, then you are forcing them to accept unreasonable changes to how they work.
What happens then?
Constructive dismissal requires the subject to resign and forgoe future earnings.
Not sit at home picking their arse and getting £5-£10m a year for it.
 
Quite the cunning plan, until it falls down when you realise that both parties need to negotiate to come to an agreement. 😆

You say you're not assuming anything yet you made a giant assumption to think that the club haven't already done what you just proposed :confused:

Are you alright?
Why would you ask if I’m alright then suggest the club may well have carried out the suggestion?

Because it’s perfectly reasonable and there’s a history in the business of football of it being done

I can see why things are driving you nuts you’re making overly hard work of this
 
More often than not when the boss is pushed out and hasn't deliberately decided he wants a new job so gets himself sacked.
If anyone in the real world done that they'd pretty much forgoe a penny in compensation

Loads of golden goodbyes this is a recent example. It's really hard to prove intent when managers perform shit so they get paid off, same in the real world for top jobs.
 
Why would you ask if I’m alright then suggest the club may well have carried out the suggestion?

Because it’s perfectly reasonable and there’s a history in the business of football of it being done

I can see why things are driving you nuts you’re making overly hard work of this

I'm not actually suggesting anything, just making a point that it's all well and good 'negotiating' and suggesting that the club should do x and y blah blah but ultimately my point is that it's down to the player and we do not know what his motivations are.

This debate started with the whole 'rip up his contract' mantra which people were spouting, in theory it sounds like a good idea but that entire assumption is based on the player agrees to it, it doesn't work like that.
 
I'm not actually suggesting anything, just making a point that it's all well and good 'negotiating' and suggesting that the club should do x and y blah blah but ultimately my point is that it's down to the player and we do not know what his motivations are.

This debate started with the whole 'rip up his contract' mantra which people were spouting, in theory it sounds like a good idea but that entire assumption is based on the player agrees to it, it doesn't work like that.
There you go … The rest is obvious
 
Unions can go fuck themselves.
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