It was an odd game, we've played worse and won but they didnt need to run us ragged as they were coasting at 2-0 after 25 minutes and could just soak up pressure. It was a massive game for us, both to stop them and get CL and they only had to put in minimal effort to have the game won after 38 minutes. The frustating thing is they were there for the taking but we're just so vunerable and naive we just handed it to them.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I think part of that was the way they attacked. On a few occasions we lost the ball in the final third, but they moved it more slowly out of defence - opting to build through the midfield rather than do what Newcastle did, which was a direct ball to runners down the flanks. The one time they did do that, Saka scored. The direct balls they did try tended to be down the middle for VDV to gobble up.
We're far better against teams who play a passing attacking style than counter-attacking teams.
Absolutely.
We can only hope Paratici and Lange can unearth gems like Udogie, Vicario, van de Ven and hope Bergvall turns out to be an absolute stud.
There is a long way to go with Ange, I think elements of our play are good however there are clearly flaws that need to be worked on. I like how the team don't give up, the 2nd halfs are evidence of that, we do have a good record of clawing back points.
I'm keeping the faith, like Ange said styles of play and a mentality of being able to play a good style of football isn't built in however many months.
I for one am prepared to be patient because if you can't then is there any point, because you'll only be moaning in 7 months time again about the same old stuff.
I'm keeping the faith, like Ange said styles of play and a mentality of being able to play a good style of football isn't built in however many months.
I for one am prepared to be patient because if you can't then is there any point, because you'll only be moaning in 7 months time again about the same old stuff.
A very fair post, and one which everyone on this forum should get behind.
So....we didn't beat them then? Nothing else counts.
Crazy isnt it. Football has almost reached the stage where stats are as important as the result. I remember AVB trying that guff after another crap result and he had the piss ripped out of him. As an aside of course our stats will look ok as they were 3-0 up in 38 minutes and had to do cock all else to force the game.
Okay . We should have won every single game of every single season ever. Nothing else counts.
We're all hurting but this is ridiculous. We played well enough to deserve something from that game. That is a vast improvement over last time they came to our gaff.
Story of the season. To get played off the park is one thing, shake hands and the better man won. But to lose like this...
This man Internets.
A counter I would have to that is that a lot of the players haven’t been pulling their weight as much in the 2nd half of the season.
Maddison for example is crucial to how this system plays, but since he returned from his injury is a shadow of himself from the beginning of the season
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The point he was clearly making is that there were some positives from that performance. It was by no means a bad one.
Obviously it's hard to take anything out of an NLD loss, especially in the day(s) following it, but he's not wrong in what he said.
Ultimately, of course the results are what counts, but that doesn't mean performances can't or shouldn't be analysed.
And do not try and interpret this as me being anything less than gutted than a loss to those south london scummers.
Mate I expect you to be more intelligent when it comes to his comment about set pieces. Not for one second does he say it’s not a problem. Of course it is and he knows that but there’s lots of problems that are just as big for us to improve. Please don’t be one of the idiots mate
FFS.You and the rest of the superior fans every time we get our pants pulled down by one of our rivals
Whoop whoop!
As much passion as a bunch of corpses.......Or Ange Postecogolou stood on the touchline. Take your pick
The bloke has taken on a new league with a new team.
Don't you think he is feeling his way into it? He has to learn about the team as well as the opposition teams.
If you started in a new job, would you expect to be employee of the year straight away?
Give Ange a break!
In the four leagues he's coached, he's won the comps in his second year with them.
So next season, when he wins some silverware, you Inferior fans will be all cock a hoop and saying that you backed him the whole time.
Then if there are two losses in a row, the knives will be out again.
The one thing with training set pieces is you could practice them for 10 hours a day every day but if that delivery is perfect,the run is timed right and the finish is bang on then you can’t do fuck all about it.
What we need to work on is who is picking up,who
is in the zones and the body positioning of those in the zones. Also Vic needs to come and take corners more and take the pressure off.
There’s no way of stopping it if the opposition do the things I mentioned but we are still conceding when the delivery and run isn’t perfect. We will always concede goals over the season as every team does but at this moment in time our players are not taking responsibility at corners.
No, I get what they are saying, I just think it's tremendously blinkered to ignore all of the portents of doom that are on display for all to see, just because "time"...
To have faith that time will see things come together you have to see some fragments that can click into place. Where are these signs presently? That we have lots of possession?
We've all seen this unfold before, we know how Tottenham Hotspur the team respond to adversity, do you see us rising like a resurgent phoenix? Or do you see us spiralling into a well of self-pity?.
Did Hoddle just need more time? Did Ramos? AVB? Mourinho? Nuno? Giving some of them more time could have genuinely ended in a relegation.
Yes there is, both corners the keeper should be clearing everything, the reason why he couldn't do that was because he kept being man marked.
This was happening earlier in the season, we stuck a player on the marker but we stopped fucking doing it for some reason, absolutely infuriating especially against them, they've got the best record in the league for set pieces so it was obvious they were gonna do that.
Yip agreed. Be careful what you wish for. No manager on the planet is coming in and doing any better over the course of the season than what Ange has done and what he inherited.
Yesterday is the most gutted I’ve been in years but I’m 100% willing to see where we go next season.
Its pointless anyone wanting a change because it will take someone else time to put their stamp on it.
Watch Liverpool next season and I guarantee you they won’t challenge for the title. Klopp gone,Salah likely gone,maybe a few others and a new manager in with different ideas.