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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
It’s Liverpool I think. They’re not exceptional but they are consistent. They have a core of players just about to finish their prime who will desperately want it. Slot is tactically pretty pragmatic and they control games quite well so are consistently picking up results. If they win at the Etihad it’s basically done very early.

Woolwich have dropped too many points and still to go to Anfield. They only have one elite forward. Summer needed an Isak or Gyokores probably.

City are always hard because they can look done at an early point and then transform their season and be unbeatable. But Rodri is a Ballon d’or winner for a reason and is out. They have no consistent CB partnership now due to injuries. Savinho to me looks another Doku and Gundogan is a shadow of his former self. Their transfers haven’t been as on the mark of late and it’s caught up. Walker looks done - the pace is leaving him.

They’re over-reliant on Haaland essentially. At the moment they’re dealing with the decline/perma crockness of KDB, the injury to Rodri, and zero consistent defence or any idea who the best starting wide players are. It feels silly to call but it feels increasingly like the end of a cycle with the peak being the treble.

Still a highly technical, dangerous side and if Haaland is on it he’s a robot, but a lot needs to be fixed. It’s not just Rodri.

Frankly if you’re a huge Ange believer then the road to a premier league title won’t have been as been this open in years for the foreseeable.

As an Ange believer I'm livid about the Brighton and Ipswich games. 6 points thrown away by poor individual defensive errors by our so called first 11 players.

Because you're right - Anyone can win this league. Liverpool are getting an easy run at it at the moment.
 
Yep, makes sense.

So am I whilst being able to acknowledge it's prolonging the inevitable and wasting another season under this manager.

Not really, unlike some, I'm willing to back my opinion whether we win or lose the odd game because I can see and have seen the trend under an out of his depth manager.

You seem to see yourself as some sort of intellectual for the level of discourse to be found on a football forum so I'll ask you, does this win give you faith in this manager despite all the evidence to the contrary?
I see myself as an intellectual?

I see the scattergun is out, so I don't think I'll bother.
 
As an Ange believer I'm livid about the Brighton and Ipswich games. 6 points thrown away by poor individual defensive errors by our so called first 11 players.

Because you're right - Anyone can win this league. Liverpool are getting an easy run at it at the moment.
Thing is, WE had what seemed like a relatively easy run with winless Palace and Ipswich in the last few weeks...

...HAD we won those (as was expected) and lost away at Utd and City, we'd be on the same points, and NO ONE would be surprised!

As it is, we dropped needless points there, and have a 7-0 aggregate score in Manchester this season!!

Fucking crazy days!
 
Yep, makes sense.

So am I whilst being able to acknowledge it's prolonging the inevitable and wasting another season under this manager.

Not really, unlike some, I'm willing to back my opinion whether we win or lose the odd game because I can see and have seen the trend under an out of his depth manager.

You seem to see yourself as some sort of intellectual for the level of discourse to be found on a football forum so I'll ask you, does this win give you faith in this manager despite all the evidence to the contrary?
I have not lost the faith unlike some!
 
You’re*

Anyway, I’m glad YOU’RE brave enough to quote me now, from a position of perceived (wink, shady) strength anyway.

I don’t rate my own knowledge on the sport that highly but I rate the knowledge of someone who is purely a manager fanboy who only signed up because of said manager even less.

You’ll back your boy whatever happens. If your boy gets sacked, you won’t be seen again. It is what it is.
Your e not a real fan either mate, just someone who thinks they're smarter than average and gets off on spouting crap when the opportunity presents itself
 
Yep, makes sense.

So am I whilst being able to acknowledge it's prolonging the inevitable and wasting another season under this manager.

Not really, unlike some, I'm willing to back my opinion whether we win or lose the odd game because I can see and have seen the trend under an out of his depth manager.

You seem to see yourself as some sort of intellectual for the level of discourse to be found on a football forum so I'll ask you, does this win give you faith in this manager despite all the evidence to the contrary?
What "trend" exactly are you seeing because every football metric has improved for the side this year, offensively, defensively, points taken from the same opponents against previous season, goal difference, remaining in cups...... so what exactly is ALL the evidence to the contrary you're referring to?
 
This season, the title is wide open. I have watched pool, and they are a well drilled team, without being exhilarating. They just defend so well.

They have conceded only 6 goals thus far. By comparison, Gooners 12, Che 14 and us 13. They manage games well.

I won't write off City, but they would need to string together a phenomenal run to pip them.
 
It must be said this game is peak Ange, we go from possibly one of the most embarrassing results in the post-Poch era to quite possibly the most impressive result in that same era. It has long been one of my harshest criticisms of Ange in his inability to pick up wins in unexpected games which is what can somewhat cancel out those horror show blips eg Palace and Ipswich, it was hard to see us picking up any unexpected points on the road, and I'd still point at the Newcastle and Brighton games as good examples of our frailty on the road, but that is one hell of a way to dispel both those worries. Whatever the media will make of City's injuries, they still had enough out on the pitch to bring Ake, Grealish and De Bruyne off the bench, all three of whom would definitely improve our squad if not start most games. I would definitely say our first XI was more severely weakened considering our lack of depth at CB and our 1st and 2nd choices being out. I really pray this is a turning point in the season in terms of team mentality, I still have the capacity to get behind Ange, but we seriously need to start seeing some consistency again.
 
Made good calls today. Maddison back to midfield, three proper midfielders in midfield doing proper midfieldy stuff, Kulusevski out of midfield and back to RF, much more use in build up play than Johnson. First sub was strange (why not just put Werner on there) subsequent subs were ok.
 
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