If we won all the games we lost we’d be title winners.
Cheers Geoff
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If we won all the games we lost we’d be title winners.
Cheers Geoff
What progress????
Explain it. Anyone can say that, but actually explain how we're progressing in any way shape or form?
We are getting further and further away from mounting a challenge on the top 4.
We started last season in it, and have been drifting away from it ever since.
He upset some of his own players though with his negative tactics. Hummels and apparently Rues were vocal about it, pretty sure hummels and terzic had a punch up because of it.
I thought beating Man City 4-0 at the Etihad indicated progress
Context is all I'm saying. We are missing so many players, have had so many poor results, yet we only sit 5 points off second! The way your going on makes it sound like we are already 10 points behind top 4 and that this season is a write off
There must be a reason.
I will be very surprised after the absolute clusterfuck that has been the post Poch era if any top coach wants to come
Jose sacked before a final
Nuno sacked after 10 games
Conte sacked after effectively forcing Levy’s hand by publicly castigating him
Ange sacked within 1 season and 13 prem games (in theory right now) after being given mainly kids as signings in the summer , whilst also having seemingly a wage squeeze imposed
Very attractive job if you like to have your reputation shredded, otherwise not so much
We got beat by Brighton with Romero VDV Bentancur Solanke and Vicario. This context you are clinging to is fake. In fact I have at this time more faith in Dragusin and Davis than the other two centerbacks, they were our best players yesterday. You're not stupid but you are being way too generous in your assessment of what is happening. Which I have sympathy for because I like Ange. But a rational assessment is not flattering on his decision making.
It's like you either don't listen or just forget everything people say.
So let me get this straight.
You say that it would be easier to turn water into wine, then to get our current crop of players winning games against sides such as Leicester, Ipswich, Crystal Palace and Fulham ?
Or that it would be easier to turn water into wine than being ahead of masterful genius of a coach that is Nuno who is leading Nottingham Forest?
I have never, not even once, seen that anyone would blame Ange for us not being in competition to WIN EPL.
But playing for 41 games in 55 point schedule that would have resulted in 8th-11th place finish in past 4 seasons is absolutely lightyears from winning the title, isn't it?
I might be missing something here so help me out. Who are the 8 first team players injured? I can count 5 but am struggling after that?
Honestly?
Overall better than we are doing now.
During that spell we did finish 4th too. And made it to the cup final.
Neither of things will be achieved while trying something in every 2nd game.
Right now we are nailed on 55 point finish in EPL.
Worst we've done after Poch era is 59. If we keep going on like we have for past year, we will not get even that.
So I'd reflect back to you. If that has been a shit spell, why do you want us to do shittier than shit from here on?
Vicario, Romero, VDV, Bentancur, Solanke, Richarlison, Odobert and Moore were the 8 players missing yesterday. 5 starters and 3 players who would have started yesterday given the fact we had a Thursday night game and are missing the other 5.
What about all the over results where we dropped points but had a next to fully strength squad
But we have never been threatening the top it's always a case of "only 30 points off 5th we can do this"
I'm sure even the mouthiest gobshite (coach Stel I am looking at you) is fed up with changing manager but in the words of Dirty Harry "do you feel lucky". Our schism is do we think this is the coach to stick with.
I say he is so limited he won't be around this time next year and Larry I am counting on you to come up with the receipts to prove me wrong when we lift the Europa.
It was a great win but their form is really poor and we failed to build on it which has happened several times after a good result .Injuries have definitely cost us due to a average squad but overall for me progress if you can call it that is small .Will wait for a fully fit squad to really see if things could work out and hopefully they do .
Well I think the job is pretty much mission impossible right nowSo let me get this straight.
You say that it would be easier to turn water into wine, then to get our current crop of players winning games against sides such as Leicester, Ipswich, Crystal Palace and Fulham ?
Or that it would be easier to turn water into wine than being ahead of masterful genius of a coach that is Nuno who is leading Nottingham Forest?
I have never, not even once, seen that anyone would blame Ange for us not being in competition to WIN EPL.
But playing for 41 games in 55 point schedule that would have resulted in 8th-11th place finish in past 4 seasons is absolutely lightyears from winning the title, isn't it?
Ref Nuno , I did not like the style of football . However Marinakis has chucked money at Forest and has taken them from Championship strugglers to 6th in the league . Chelsea were way behind us and now are well ahead , same with Woolwich . I will be surprised if United don’t overtake us soon .
The facts are pretty clear the clubs that spend money and especially on salaries are the most successful over a sustained period . I doubt Forest stay there this season but there improvement is financial support of the manager driven.
I believe we are squeezing salaries and recruiting kids, so no I don’t think we are guaranteed the next guy does any better . If we want success we have to invest accordingly and we won’t
The Man City who can’t buy a win at the moment.
Tbh i like to simplify things in life. Looking at fans reaction and posts on here. The fans arent happy. Id say judge him end of season and tbh he painted a target for himself saying he wins something 2nd season. If he does then great delighted. If we dont he will go.