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Player Timo Werner

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“We are talking to Timo constantly,” Postecoglou said.

“We understand he is lacking some confidence at the moment and everyone has been working hard at that, but with all these things, ultimately it’s incumbent on him to use as much support he’s got around here to get himself out of it.

“Our role in that is to provide that support whether that’s internally or externally, whatever he needs. Obviously it’s then up to him to try to use that to get him back to the levels where he wants to be and where he can contribute for us."
 
Did you actually read it?

This is the quote:

“We are talking to Timo constantly,” Postecoglou said.

“We understand he is lacking some confidence at the moment and everyone has been working hard at that, but with all these things, ultimately it’s incumbent on him to use as much support he’s got around here to get himself out of it.

“Our role in that is to provide that support whether that’s internally or externally, whatever he needs. Obviously it’s then up to him to try to use that to get him back to the levels where he wants to be and where he can contribute for us."
He is openly stating that he is aware he is playing shit and needs to contribute more.

Show me where he's said anything remotely similar to Romero who has been at fault for so many goals and loses? or son who has literally ghosted through games?
 
He is openly stating that he is aware he is playing shit and needs to contribute more.

Show me where he's said anything remotely similar to Romero who has been at fault for so many goals and loses? or son who has literally ghosted through games?
He hasn't said he's playing shit. He said they are supporting him to get his confidence back because he was missing chances at the time.

Tonight he's called him out for effort more than anything. They aren't even remotely the same.

Just yesterday he called Romero out for the interview he gave.
 
Missing chances is what Timo does.

Tonight he dropped his head and didn't work hard. Haven't seen that before and that's obviously what Postecoglou was rightly angry about.
it's not about "working hard". . .
he just doesn't have it - except for occasional bringing the ball into the byline for a cross.

he's just a loanee - so, its easy to chuck under the bus. season with a few mths to go for him.
 
More than our senior players who are on full contracts? .......Inc. our 3 captains?

Sorry, but no.
Son was dreadful but left everything out there.

Werner's been dreadful many many times and I've defended him. Tonight he dropped his head and his work rate. That's indefensible.

Amused to see on the manager thread how many Timo fans there are now. Funny - never noticed them when I was defending him before.

It's almost like they've got another agenda :roflmao: (Not talking about g about you btw)
 
Son was dreadful but left everything out there.

Werner's been dreadful many many times and I've defended him. Tonight he dropped his head and his work rate. That's indefensible.

Amused to see on the manager thread how many Timo fans there are now. Funny - never noticed them when I was defending him before.

It's almost like they've got another agenda :roflmao: (Not talking about g about you btw)

Can't say I clocked his work-rate as much as I did the majority of his actions failing.

(On his day we get a decent wing performance out of him and some decent crosses.... But he was shit tonight)



Regardless; I responded to this:

"He more than anyone should be leaving everything out there for the team."

I maintain this is incorrect...... Our seniors on full contracts should be setting the standards... Not a loanee.
 
Can't say I clocked his work-rate as much as I did the majority of his actions failing.

(On his day we get a decent wing performance out of him and some decent crosses.... But he was shit tonight)



Regardless; I responded to this:

"He more than anyone should be leaving everything out there for the team."

I maintain this is incorrect...... Our seniors on full contracts should be setting the standards... Not a loanee.

Fair enough. I suppose I meant that in the sense that I've been defending him - and wanting him to succeed so much - for so long because I could see he's trying so hard. And that's all you can ask of players who are in total form slumps.

But when he does what he did tonight - which was drop his head and stop working hard to help his team on transition and in defence - then there's nowhere else to hide. That was his one saving grace for all the ballooned shots, poor simple first touches...

i saw it and said so in the match thread. because i genuinely wanted the guy's redemption arc.

But you're right in principle.
 
Here's the full context of Ange's comments re Timo. I actually think Ange has been quite candid and honest. I don't see anything wrong with his comments. It's up to Timo to respond now. Btw it's the top video.

He said the performance wasn't acceptable. That's criticism. And Ange is against criticising players in public. So he looks like a clown after that.
 
Not a good look for Postecoglou. He just kept piling on Werner. Could have said less and moved on. It was like he was trying to distract people's attention from another subpar performance and threw Werner under the bus.
I disagree. He kept getting asked about him. All he basically said is Timo is not playing at the standard known of and expected of him. Let’s see how Timo reacts.
 
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