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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?

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Who to replace Ange?

  • Andoni Iraola

  • Edin Terzic

  • Graham Potter

  • Thomas Frank

  • Marco Silva

  • Kieran McKenna

  • Ryan Mason (Full Time)

  • Michel

  • Xavi

  • Mauricio Pochettino

  • Dino Toppmoller

  • Simone Inzaghi

  • Sean Dyche (Click here if you're an idiot)

  • No-one (Ange new contract)

  • Oliver Glasner

  • Vincenzo Italiano

  • Vitor Pereira

  • Scott Parker

  • Will Still

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JimothyCF14 said:
Southgate on a short term contract wouldn't see us shipping in 13 goals over 3 home games

There's no point using Southgate as the boogeyman to scare us into supporting this mess.
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Not trying to scare anyone - just being rational. He's clearly the most viable short term target for all the reasons I listed.

Meh - I'd be happy enough with Southgate. I'd prefer Iraola.
 
Phomesy said:
Not trying to scare anyone - just being rational. He's clearly the most viable short term target for all the reasons I listed.

Meh - I'd be happy enough with Southgate. I'd prefer Iraola.
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Everyone on here is claiming Iraola is somehow impossible, and I wouldn't want Southgate full-time but I'd take him on a 6month contract to stabilise us and try for Iraola in the summer.
 
A Tuba said:
Why would Southgate take a short term contract?
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He wouldn't.

The bloke had an incredibly successful reign as England Manager. There's a fucking National Theatre play about him that sells out wherever and whenever its on.

There isn't a bigger name available in world football and he's absolutely who Levy will turn too after a failed project. The only question is will he come?
 
JimothyCF14 said:
Everyone on here is claiming Iraola is somehow impossible, and I wouldn't want Southgate full-time but I'd take him on a 6month contract to stabilise us and try for Iraola in the summer.
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I don't know if Iraola is "impossible" - I just think it would be very hard and very expensive to pry him out of Bournemouth right now and doubt he'd even want to come given the list of sacked managers before him? Iraola will have his pick of top clubs next year if Bournemouth continue on their trajectory. Why on earth would he choose the poisoned chalice?
 
Phomesy said:
I don't know if Iraola is "impossible" - I just think it would be very hard and very expensive to pry him out of Bournemouth right now and doubt he'd even want to come given the list of sacked managers before him? Iraola will have his pick of top clubs next year if Bournemouth continue on their trajectory. Why on earth would he choose the poisoned chalice?
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We always say this then we always find some mug to pick us up.

Look if we're such an unattractive proposition that the Bournemouth manager would baulk at the idea then whats even the point of Tottenham Hotspur?
 
Anyway, I didn't even bring up Southgate I was only responding to the idea we can't sack Ange because apparently only Southgate is available, as if this clusterfuck we're witnessing unfold right now is somehow too precious to let go of.
 
Phomesy said:
I don't know if Iraola is "impossible" - I just think it would be very hard and very expensive to pry him out of Bournemouth right now and doubt he'd even want to come given the list of sacked managers before him? Iraola will have his pick of top clubs next year if Bournemouth continue on their trajectory. Why on earth would he choose the poisoned chalice?
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Realistically, what clubs? United have just gone for Amorim so he's got 18 months at least, Liverpool seem pretty keen on Slot, Arteta has more than enough credit in the bank to survive a season of top 4 with no trophies, ditto Pep at City, no chance Maresca could fuck up enough by the end of the season to get the boot from Chavs, so that's England a no go, and as for the big Spanish clubs, Atletico don't seem like binning Simeone any time soon, Real and Alonso seem to be inextricably linked as far as the rumour mill and Barcelona are doing alright under Flick, Iraola doesn't leap out as someone they would doggedly pursue as his replacement should they decide to bin him after a season anyway. Spurs and Newcastle are realistically the two biggest jobs in world football that could become available before the end of the season, so it's really a question of whether Iraola would want to see out the remainder of the season with Bournemouth. We got Antonio Conte to sign when we were desperate, I think we can both afford and tempt Andoni Iraola..
 
JimothyCF14 said:
Anyway, I didn't even bring up Southgate I was only responding to the idea we can't sack Ange because apparently only Southgate is available, as if this clusterfuck we're witnessing unfold right now is somehow too precious to let go of.
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Who said we can't sack Ange "because only Southgate is available"?

And why on earth would any Spurs fan have any reason to look down on Gareth Southgate?

And therein lies the problem. People are already complaining about the next guy we hire before we're done sacking the current manager. :D :levylol:
 
Mostly wrong said:
Realistically, what clubs? United have just gone for Amorim so he's got 18 months at least, Liverpool seem pretty keen on Slot, Arteta has more than enough credit in the bank to survive a season of top 4 with no trophies, ditto Pep at City, no chance Maresca could fuck up enough by the end of the season to get the boot from Chavs, so that's England a no go, and as for the big Spanish clubs, Atletico don't seem like binning Simeone any time soon, Real and Alonso seem to be inextricably linked as far as the rumour mill and Barcelona are doing alright under Flick, Iraola doesn't leap out as someone they would doggedly pursue as his replacement should they decide to bin him after a season anyway. Spurs and Newcastle are realistically the two biggest jobs in world football that could become available before the end of the season, so it's really a question of whether Iraola would want to see out the remainder of the season with Bournemouth. We got Antonio Conte to sign when we were desperate, I think we can both afford and tempt Andoni Iraola..
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Maybe. I hope so.
 
It's like everyone just suddenly forgets how they booed Nuno out of the club because he subbed Lucas fucking Moura off - and now the same guy has Nottingham Forest - the pedigree of Brian Clough - absolutely flying.
 
Of course Iraola, Frank, Silva and the like would come here. They'd jump right in if given the opportunity.

There's no substitute for the ability to spend. Being well run as a club, a trait that's often attributed to clubs of the aforementioned managers, can only compensate for lack of spending for so long. These clubs have an extremely low ceiling due to how little they spend compared to clubs like us. Maybe playing European football once in a blue moon, like Nuno did with Wolves in 19/20 and Dyche did with Burnley in 18/19.

Their ceiling is like our floor. We spend a fortune every transfer window compared to these clubs. Right now we have a core of young players they can never dream of having at their disposal. There is pressure to succeed and job security is not super high, but these apply to those clubs as well. I can't see a single factor that'd make a manager think twice before coming from there to here. Yes, that includes working with Levy.

There are in fact managers that'd scorn at the thought of managing us, but these are very few. And they certainly do not include those that are managing mid-table teams at the moment. Let's not sell ourselves that short.
 
BJK said:
Of course Iraola, Frank, Silva and the like would come here. They'd jump right in if given the opportunity.

There's no substitute for the ability to spend. Being well run as a club, a trait that's often attributed to clubs of the aforementioned managers, can only compensate for lack of spending for so long. These clubs have an extremely low ceiling due to how little they spend compared to clubs like us. Maybe playing European football once in a blue moon, like Nuno did with Wolves in 19/20 and Dyche did with Burnley in 18/19.

Their ceiling is like our floor. We spend a fortune every transfer window compared to these clubs. Right now we have a core of young players they can never dream of having at their disposal. There is pressure to succeed and job security is not super high, but these apply to those clubs as well. I can't see a single factor that'd make a manager think twice before coming from there to here. Yes, that includes working with Levy.

There are in fact managers that'd scorn at the thought of managing us, but these are very few. And they certainly do not include those that are managing mid-table teams at the moment. Let's not sell ourselves that short.
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This is my thoughts on the subject exactly, it's easy to beat ourselves up in the moment because we're down in the dumps and we've been going nowhere fast for a long time but the idea that any manager doing well at a mid table club where they will definitely win fuck all anyway will turn their noses up at us because "Spurs are cursed" or some other such bollocks is laughable, they're only gonna look at the players we currently have and what they'll be given to spend and base their expectations on that. We are not inherently cursed with bad juju, we just haven't spent enough to really go for it when we've had the opportunities, coupled with some poor decision making in the games that mattered (sacking Jose before a cup final vs Pep, playing a clearly unfit Kane in the CL final). Professional managers don't give a fuck about the banter club shit, if they can get a promotion to a side with significantly more spending power and a much higher ceiling 9/10 times they'll go for it. It really just depends if he's willing to go mid-season, I will say those same managers can still show good loyalty to the employer that helped them make their name as a manager.
 
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