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Player Guglielmo Vicario

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People are crazy. Vic has been really good for us. Today he made a slight mistake but there was a big deflection changing the height of the ball. Ball was spinning and he didn't quite get it right. But wtf, going on like he's a terrible goalie because he doesn't save a largely deflected shot. Madness.

Then look at the half-wit Romero and the mistakes he makes. He's supposedly the world best CB because Messi said so. Vicario is miles better than Romero. There are not many better keepers, but you'll find better defenders than Romero in the championship.
 
To be fair to Vicario, isn't he up there in terms of stopping goals v expected goals conceded (or something along those lines)?

I.e. he's basically put in the firing line constantly because of our suicideball. Another victim of the system, and between him and young Kinsky I think we can put aside any goalkeeper search for this summer.
This is true.

Vicario has his own set of lowlights. But a fair few of them stem from how we play.

Take Forest's second goal last night. Vic has to rush out to try and get the ball because Romero started ball watching and stopped following Wood, who moved into open space.

Vic isn't flawless. But some of his errors are literally forced upon him.
 
This is true.

Vicario has his own set of lowlights. But a fair few of them stem from how we play.

Take Forest's second goal last night. Vic has to rush out to try and get the ball because Romero started ball watching and stopped following Wood, who moved into open space.

Vic isn't flawless. But some of his errors are literally forced upon him.
Last night's second, whatever happened our defenders, the goalkeeper never got within 18 inches of the height of the cross which made it easy for Wood.

The again, this is a keeper who has conceded goals from corners 3 yards out in the middle of the 6 yard box while rooted to his line.
 
I have posted muchly that I rate his shot stopping as top rate the rest of his game not so.
The problem is his last two league games have been extremely dodgy (I understand the deflection but I was shocked he didn't push the first goal round the post)
 
People are crazy. Vic has been really good for us. Today he made a slight mistake but there was a big deflection changing the height of the ball. Ball was spinning and he didn't quite get it right. But wtf, going on like he's a terrible goalie because he doesn't save a largely deflected shot. Madness.

Then look at the half-wit Romero and the mistakes he makes. He's supposedly the world best CB because Messi said so. Vicario is miles better than Romero. There are not many better keepers, but you'll find better defenders than Romero in the championship.
I agree. I like Vic. He's passionate and a superb shot stopper. Good distribution (needs to go long a bit more though), and getting better with crosses. He's in the top 10 keepers in the PL and good enough. Our problems lie elsewhere.
 
He's not the style of keeper I like..I think in all honesty so much that's wrong stems from the coaching that I find it hard to assess the individuals. I will say that the fans club and it's reporters (Gold, Pitt-Brooke) seriously over estimate the players. Honestly I don't think we have one world class player on our books. Not one. We have a handful of decent pros. Vicario isn't the kind of character I'd want for number one long term and if good money came in fom inter, I'd take it.
 
People are crazy. Vic has been really good for us. Today he made a slight mistake but there was a big deflection changing the height of the ball. Ball was spinning and he didn't quite get it right. But wtf, going on like he's a terrible goalie because he doesn't save a largely deflected shot. Madness.

Then look at the half-wit Romero and the mistakes he makes. He's supposedly the world best CB because Messi said so. Vicario is miles better than Romero. There are not many better keepers, but you'll find better defenders than Romero in the championship.
1. Yes there was a deflection but a top keeper saves that
2. You are conveniently ignoring him in no man's land for the second goal
3. Wolves?

The guy is erratic and clearly has errors in him. He is shit with the ball. He is a great shot stopper generally.

Definitely room for improvement. Hopefully Kinksy can develop.
 
He's not the style of keeper I like..I think in all honesty so much that's wrong stems from the coaching that I find it hard to assess the individuals. I will say that the fans club and it's reporters (Gold, Pitt-Brooke) seriously over estimate the players. Honestly I don't think we have one world class player on our books. Not one. We have a handful of decent pros. Vicario isn't the kind of character I'd want for number one long term and if good money came in fom inter, I'd take it.
I would say only Romero (on form) is in the world class conversation ability-wise. His inconsistency more or less removes him from that debate however.

Other than that, I agree. We've got used to having at least one world class player in the team for a long time now dating back to Berbatov probably. Sad to see us properly languishing in mid to lower table mediocrity with the likes of Johnson and Richarlison now.
 
Wouldn’t mind the forest keeper but no chance we get him now. Looks calmness personified compared to vicario who literally gave them two goals last night and this after his performance at wolves. Way too erratic to be top class.
 
I would say only Romero (on form) is in the world class conversation ability-wise. His inconsistency more or less removes him from that debate however.

Other than that, I agree. We've got used to having at least one world class player in the team for a long time now dating back to Berbatov probably. Sad to see us properly languishing in mid to lower table mediocrity with the likes of Johnson and Richarlison now.
Romero is not really a defender but I suppose he just wasn't good enough to play further up and tried to compensate by being a skillful defender. I think his defensive abilities overall are really mediocre. He tries to put on a show with spectacular tackles and reckless challenges, but a good defender don't need to do that. And I imagine his inconsistency comes from not being a real defender and able to read the game.
 
1. Yes there was a deflection but a top keeper saves that
2. You are conveniently ignoring him in no man's land for the second goal
3. Wolves?

The guy is erratic and clearly has errors in him. He is shit with the ball. He is a great shot stopper generally.

Definitely room for improvement. Hopefully Kinksy can develop.
Yeah, a poor game from him but it happens to all keepers once in a while. I don't think we've seen too many howlers from him. when was the last one before the forest game?

Hard to see how kinksy develops into something really good. He's not tall, his distribution has been a bit of a mess, and he's nowhere near the shotstopper that Vic is.
 
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