I just wanna go on the piss with him
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Player Brennan Johnson
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Nothing is more spurs than demanding we buy expensive players and then scapegoating them for being expensive. The stick Ndombele, Soldado, Sissoko, Sanchez etc all got would have been different had they been cheaper.
I think there is some validity to some criticism though - he is one of those players that never really has a good game but is regularly contributing. It sounds like a paradox, but actually isn't.
He's great without the ball, but pretty counterproductive with it. Would have been a ballon d'or candidate in the late 90s/early 00s as a forward, but people expect more these days.
The expectations were different. Forwards would walk around and barely touch the ball - it was all about goal contributions.
Zlatan said something about when he was in Italy, or early on, and he was being coached or managed by one of the 90s guys like Rijkaard or . I can't remember who or the exact phrasing (it's been a while since I read the book) but he was told to save his energy for when they got the ball to him, instead of running around and dropping back.
Michael Owen would be the best example. Won the ballon d'Or and you wouldn't have caught him passing to anyone, tackling or pressing. Lineker never got a booking because he never went near an opponent out of possession
Yeah I mean some criticism was fair, but quite a lot of the criticism was a bit ridiculous.
It wasn't balanced in the slightest. When people make their minds up that's it.
Anyone up for Johnson scoring the winner tomorrow?
Trying to avoid the irony, but people are never really balance on the internet. it's all monkey brain primal shouting.
It always bothers me that there's no validity to who is slinging it either. You could be a passionate racist and see an opportunity to abuse someone and not be a fan of said club. It's that fine line between the right and wrong aspects about anonymity, but I do find it crazy that those sites don't have AI blocking abuse before it gets to people.
I'm sure plenty will have seen a couple out in the wild, though. There's always at least one numpty with a season ticket who will be racially abusing Son and telling half the players they are shite
Brennan Johnson is on 1 in 3 in the league. He wouldn’t be close to any Ballon d’or conversations in any era of football. Lineker scored many more goals than him, Owen did the same but could also beat 3-4 players to score.
I get the point you’re trying to make (that he suits a different era more) but in the 90’s/2000’s he might be more appreciated but there would be many players who do what he does but much better. Top quality goalscoring forwards were ten a penny.
For me Brennan is a Defoe, but with nowhere near the same range/variety in his finishing. Defoe was lethal from any angle around the box whereas Brennan excels at pretty much one or two specific types of goal.
Fair - but everyone's stats are going to be affected by the league form.
Drogba wasn't in the mix for the big awards but is often talked about like one of the best, but he's not actually that prolific on paper - so you don't really need to be slinging them in - just coming up clutch. Owen, for example, was something like 24 in 46 in his BdO winning season. This season, brennan has 18 goes in 50 games in the shittiest league form we've had in maybe a century. It's very impressive when seen from the eyes of how stats were done back then, before people did spirograph drawings to measure a player's performance.
He probably won’t be sober enoughAnyone up for Johnson scoring the winner tomorrow?
He may need a heart starter at half time though!Anyone up for Johnson scoring the winner tomorrow?
Drogba manhandled players. Probably the best big game player ever combined with the best CF hold up play ever. And I don’t think he was ever close to a Ballon d’or. He also had way more to his game than Brennan .. could rocket one in from distance, free kicks, aerial monster.
Owen won it in a really weak year because he did some really special things that year. People had eyes back then too, Brennan would never be close to that tier. Owen was better at every single part of being a forward than Brennan is .. and in a different universe when it comes to dribbling, technique and explosiveness.
He’s probably better than people (including myself) give him credit for and he clearly has some uses. I just find him limited to the point of frustration .. but he does score.
Defoe had some similar issues with being so limited in ways he was never going to lead the line for an elite club or country. Was always in that second striker/super sub category. And again, Defoe was truly special off the ball and a truly special finisher with elite level pace.
Defoe could beat his man, and he was a far better shooter (from distance) and better finisher overall. It's not close.
My main criticism of Johnson is that he pulls out of 50/50s and eases up instead of using his pace to try and get to the ball first. He does this far too often. I can understand not wanting to get injured, so some of the 50/50s I can understand, especially when you're running at speed but the giving up on a race down the flank against a fullback and turning an attack into the start of a defensive phase I just don't get.
There's a fantastic footballer in there, I feel like if he believed in himself and his ability a bit more he'd really kick on.
That being said, maybe it's coached. Fuck knows. Glad to see him get a medal and score the winner in a cup final though. That'll do him a load of good moving forwards.
There's a fantastic footballer in there, I feel like if he believed in himself and his ability a bit more he'd really kick on.
That being said, maybe it's coached. Fuck knows. Glad to see him get a medal and score the winner in a cup final though. That'll do him a load of good moving forwards.
Shooting %
Johnson: 39.8%
Defoe: 40.1%
Average shot distance
Johnson: 14.7 yds
Defoe: 11.4 yds
Goals per shot
Johnson: 0.13
Defoe: 0.17
Goals per shot on target
Johnson: 0.34
Defoe: 0.29
Nostalgia is a powerful force.
Are we seriously discussing Brennan and the Ballon d’Or?
I’ve probably defended him as much as anyone and I think he scores 25-30 goals in all comps next season but…
He’s never going to be a Ballon d’Or player. Gareth Bale never won a fucking Ballon d’Or and he’s the greatest British footballer of all time
I’ve probably defended him as much as anyone and I think he scores 25-30 goals in all comps next season but…
He’s never going to be a Ballon d’Or player. Gareth Bale never won a fucking Ballon d’Or and he’s the greatest British footballer of all time
Well I doubt there are any British players who have won more trophies.
Giggs by a country mile.
Check to see how many players in the PL scored more goals in all competitions this season.
The criticism should be that Johnson might do even more, and not that he doesn't do enough. That's just called an agenda.