I just hope we have some deals for players lined up for the day the window opens as whoever the manager is next season, they are going to need a bigger and better squad.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Ange should always have a special place in Spurs history but st the same time we have to acknowledge he has been awful in the league. Would be smart to thank him for his work but also find someone new to lead the teamIf you don’t want to return him , doesn’t that mean you want to keep him?
Any way I’m done with this thread for a bit , it’s not a hill I want to die on , I just wish people could be critical of the manager and his league form whilst also recognising that him winning us the EL is a massive achievement!
As I have said numerous times , whatever levy decides to do is fine by me , I agree our league form has been horrendous and that should be a sackable offence on its own , but that should have happened months ago, but then if it did do we still win the EL?
Leaving it till now is just typical Levy, still at least it’s better than sacking him right before a final I guess!
I agree that some good young players got a man’s season under their belts and winning a cup can do their confidence a huge boost, but they will have that with whoever replaces Ange too. The players aren’t bad, his tactics and management is. You could make a very strong case that keeping him around is bad for their development
Farioli is awful
Well, we're Daniel Levy's club and we don't and won't, and will continue to operate in the same manner whether Antonio Conte, Bill Nicholson or Jesus Christ is the manager.
A lot of people in this thread are treating appropriately ambitious transfer market investment as if that's the manager's job when it has been comprehensively proven that no force on earth can ever make Daniel Levy spend as much of our resources on the squad as every single other professional football club on Planet Earth.
It sucks. We should protest at the stadium for every game.
But, we also need to PLAY the game, and a manager offering to push for silverware and play entertaining football within the shackles Levy places on the club is Ange Postecoglou.
*Does* Frank or Iraola or whomever offer that? Are we sure?
What are our *actual* options?
Don Fabio is a true genius at dealmaking in the player market, but his history with managers is truly wretched and I do not think he should be trusted with this sort of input. Horses for courses.
That is a very reasonable position. I am not particularly Ange in, although I am not going to go into some kind of tailspin and start taking hard drugs if he stays. I have been doing this long enough to expect the unexpected and roll with it.
My reasoning for wanting Ange gone is simple. I do not enjoy watching Spurs play football under him.
For all the attacking intent and big words, it isn't fun to watch knowing that there's at least 80% chance that you are going to lose because the football is either so gung ho, or lately all hands on deck in defense and praying for the best. Football is about balance to me and this team has none because the manager is quite open about not valuing it. And this is reflected in the league results which is the bred and butter for 99% of PL coaches.
I applaud Ange for managing to break the trophy drought and he will always have a special place in our history for it. But that's also why I feel like he should walk/be let go now. Go out on a high note and ride off into the sunset instead of damn near inevitably getting canned next season when the league form keeps being abysmal.
For all the attacking intent and big words, it isn't fun to watch knowing that there's at least 80% chance that you are going to lose because the football is either so gung ho, or lately all hands on deck in defense and praying for the best. Football is about balance to me and this team has none because the manager is quite open about not valuing it. And this is reflected in the league results which is the bred and butter for 99% of PL coaches.
I applaud Ange for managing to break the trophy drought and he will always have a special place in our history for it. But that's also why I feel like he should walk/be let go now. Go out on a high note and ride off into the sunset instead of damn near inevitably getting canned next season when the league form keeps being abysmal.
Anyone else a bit meh at the moment? I'm still watching videos etc from last week, smiling and enjoying the moment. We won a trophy, a big one.
Lets all celebrate this a bit more eh and let things be
COYS CSWY
Lets all celebrate this a bit more eh and let things be
COYS CSWY
You have a girly haircut!
You’re 100 % right of course ; but positive energy / confidence are often rare commodities in life ( and vital ones for being successful in a sporting context) .
I would rationalise my change in opinion by 1) the fact that for now , at least , we seem to have a both of those things and 2) the hope that AP and everyone involved with the Club are well aware of his previous (profound ) failings ; and will do absolutely everything to try to address them .
I will , as I have, also said , equally understand if it turns out that we and AP have reached the end of out rainbow * ( so to say ) .
* a rainbow that appeared after near on 18 months of almost unrelenting cold rain tbf ; but a rainbow nevertheless.
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Are you saying the vast majority want Ange in or out?
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I don’t think that’s what’s at play here at all.
What concerns most fans that are Ange out, is that a lot of posters seem to have allowed the trophy win to cloud their judgement to the point that the league form seems irrelevant.
I was ecstatic about getting the trophy monkey off our back, but it doesn’t stop me thinking retaining Ange will be an absolute car crash next season and then we’ll be scrabbling around mid-season for a replacement.
It’s a fine achievement, but I still don’t think he’s the right man to lead us into next season.
It’s fine saying he’s a winner, but what do you envisage being any different with regards to the league?
I think this has been overlooked. Obviously it was wonderful winning a week ago but for the last 18 months it has been pretty shit on the whole.
Did you read the post I was responding to - the one that didn't mention Ange once?
The depths of the José/Nuno/Conte eras were no worse a watch than the Ange era has been.
Ive said multiple times i think, if we can find someone better, he should go.
But I'm already sick of hearing these assholes that call themselves spurs fans diminish our achievement this season.