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Let's say Southgate was brought in at the end of January, when we were 15th and losers of 6 out of 7, but still could have salvaged the domestic cups. I think at that point 90% were Ange Out except those who didn't want to make a change but for the cups.
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Your anecdote is also word for word the opposite of another poster can't recall his name think he has Gascoigne in his avatar. Said he was at the Brighton game and loads of people he spoke to were not devastated by the idea of removing Postecoglou. So I'm not sure you're making a great case for Anges retention. Just telling us about sample size. What's that axiom about the plural of anecdote not being data.
Attention span of the average football fan is woefully short in this day and age, wait for the inevitable ropey downturn in league results right around when the CL league stage games start and half these people will have flipped on him before September is out.
MC got canned from Boro for a lot of the same issues that we have with Ange.
Michael Carrick: Middlesbrough sack head coach
Middlesbrough part company with boss Michael Carrick after two-and-a-half years in charge.www.bbc.com
Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed ; but why wouldnt it make senes for MC to come in as assistent to AP . He’s completely grounded in English football and the EPL . He was tremendously effective as a player ( and that includes before , whilst and after playing for us) .
If the Ange post - UEFA / Europa : MC dream ticket goes very badly wrong ; Daniel could bin-off Ange and go with the new best thing . From what I’ve read he’s considered to be an excellent coach and tactician .
Last and by no means least he’s a free agent and would cost precisely nothing to bring on board .
I can well see MC eventually breaking into the big time as a manager / coach . Why shouldn’t that be with us .
Stranger things etc ….
We were in the Hilton lounge and it was free.
Come on, the chances of this are slim . He’s not some sort of round robin Svangali
Carrick and Ange together could cook. Carrick can look after the tactics while ange gives the team talks lol
You still seem to be making the representation that this is a binary issue, that there exists no such person in world football management who may have similar chances to Ange of winning a trophy (especially if gifted such an easy run to a final) without having to utterly sacrifice the league campaign to achieve it. The proof is there in that we have reached 4 finals, including the most prestigious final in world club football, inside the 17 year timeframe between our two most recent trophy wins. You have to play just as many games to lose a final as win one, which means actually getting over the line at the final hurdle has absolutely no bearing on whether the league form would have suffered to the same extent.Win or lose in football it's always a collective success and failure respectively from board down to players however the person that can make a difference on the day is the coach.
We can talk about luck, divine intervention, injuries etc...but I'll be honest no-one gives a fuck about all that if you don't win, the history books do not remember runners up and you don't get any prizes for finishing 2nd.
If you're willing to throw the blame at the manager for losing 22 matches which is more than fair by the way then you gotta keep the same energy when he wins and wins something significant at that , something that this club hadn't done for 17 years previously.
You value the league form over a cup win, that's your prerogative, cool
Context is awesome. It’s just better when it’s applied evenly and not solely to support an agenda. Like how you highlight beating Man Utd in a final being different to losing to Liverpool or Man City in one breath, yet in the next downplay the entire achievement of winning the Europa League based on the quality of opposition, conveniently ignoring all the times Tottenham have lost to less than stellar competition in previous cup competitions (Butbutbut they weren’t taking it seriously, they were fully focused on winning the ‘4th place finish in the league trophy!’) Anything to avoid giving the manager a shred of credit I guess.
If you're happy to dwell on the 17th place finish be my guest
I'll be here celebrating a trophy win, feel free to join me
May as well hire the Dallas Cowboys cheer squad in place of Ange then.
