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Management Thomas Frank

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This is me - Thomas Frank as in the Brentford Manager are you having a fucking laugh, ?


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Interesting, very interesting , this guy has something about him



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We are winning it all with Frank, everything!

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Don Pedro said:
10m is pricey enough considering it cost 4m to sack Ange. Levy putting the CL money to good use. Not like him to pay them fees for a manager. He could have had Slot in 2023!

Anyway it’s an expensive gamble by Spurs and that should give Frank loads of time. Unlike the Nuno scenario, the club can't afford to sack Frank early so we just have to support him now and hope this works. We keep sacking managers and usually go for the cheapest available option. This feels different. We need to make this work!
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Frank has to get at least two seasons. I think it takes the majority of the first season to even fully learn any new manager’s tactics anyway, with a view to being way better in that second season assuming the manager is worth their salt.
 
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Talks continue between Brentford and Spurs over Frank​

Further talks are expected to take place this morning between Tottenham and Brentford over Thomas Frank.

The clubs discussed compensation yesterday and those negotiations will continue today, but the deal is not agreed yet.

Talks are also involving a number of backroom staff that Frank wants to take with him to Spurs

Those are understood to include Justin Cochrane, who is also part of England’s coaching staff under Thomas Tuchel.
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Compensation is expected to settle somewhere in the region of £10m. Frank has a release clause in his contact, which has two years left to run.

Sky Sports News reported immediately after Ange Postecoglou’s sacking on Friday that Frank is the frontrunner to succeed him.

That has always been the case and Spurs are confident of an agreement on terms with Frank when formal permission is given for them to speak.

We understand Frank would keen to sign Bryan Mbeumo if and when he takes over at Spurs.

Tottenham as a club decide which players to sign, however, and they have recently stepped up their interest in Bournemouth's Antoine Semenyo
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ThePreacher said:
"The two met in Daniel Levy's house recently to discuss the role"


Levy's lounge.

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Is that cage where he keeps Airfixx ?
 
DadHeungMin said:
Frank has to get at least two seasons. I think it takes the majority of the first season to even fully learn any new manager’s tactics anyway, with a view to being way better in that second season assuming the manager is worth their salt.
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Its not just about 2 seasons though, he also needs to be backed in the summer window , next few months will be very telling in the direction the club is heading and if we are looking to compete or just make top 5
 
Legacy Lilywhite said:
I like this take and hope it works out. But it’s a model of sustainability for a Brentford, a Brighton, to find the great from amongst the good. We should be a whole level above that. We need to stop pretending we’re not a big club. With our resources and fanbase, we bloody well are.
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It's Daniel Levy that needs telling that, and frankly until we stop acting like Brighton/Brentford with our transfer purchases we just as well get a manager who's been proven to work well with those kind of players.

We were in the position summer 2022 with a win-now manager in Conte who had just blazed his way to 4th after the horror start with Nuno, and we played some fucking amazing football that year from Jan onwards, the 3-0 dismantling of Woolwich is one of the most dominant performances I have ever watched against them lot, right up there with the 5-1 league cup win. We bought him Richarlison and Bissouma to win the league with and had him trying to play 5atb with Eric Dier and Clement Lenglet as regular features in the side. And he was still 4th when he was sacked. I can just never see a world where Levy doesn't bend the manager over in the market so we just as well find one who can work well under such constraints.
 
All I want to see from Frank for the next 2 seasons is steady but clear improvement.
The opposite of the last regime where each 1/4 of a 2 year spell yielded steadily less points.
Flip that on its head. If Frank took only 14 points from his first 19 games, but then in his 2nd 19 games he took 24, that's a visible, demonstrable improvement. And it's literally a reversal of last season.

Edit - I want is to get more than 38 points and finish higher than 17th.
But if the worst happened and we did get 38 points again, I'd rather accumulate then in that way than the other way.
 
Matt1882 said:
Francis stabilised us big time.
Under Ossie it was 15th, and we were 11th when he was replaced after 12 games. Interestingly his league form was nowhere near as bad as Ange's. 12 games 5 wins, 2 draws, 5 losses. Vs 12 games, 9 losses, 2 draws and 1 win vs the worst team in decades.



It literally blows my mind how his fans can't see this. The Europa league is miles behind the premier league. It's hard to win it AND maintain high standards in the Premier League, sure, because of the format and the lack (previously) of no CL for the winner, teams haven't been that bothered.
We could just say fcuk it, every other season, aim to be in it and go all out for it and win it. We'd have champions league football every other year and a Europa league to get there on the other alternating years. IMO, we'd need to be aiming to be top 6 though, not bottom 4.



Why does he have to win a trophy in 2 seasons? Is that literally the standard now that every coach has to live by?
What does he have to win? We're not in any easy cups next season. What if he accidentally finishes in the CL places and we go in to that again in his 2nd season. What does he have to win?
We're in the CL now. The easiest comp is probably the league cup. Who has won that for the last 14 seasons since Brum beat Arse?
Liverpool 3 times.
City 6 times.
Chelsea once.
United twice.
Newcastle (CL this season) once
Swansea. Points of interest - finished top half whilst winning a cup. Their final was against lower league Bradford but they had to knock out Liverpool and Chelsea along the way. (2nd & 3rd in the league)
The league cup is harder to win than the Europa League considering it's less games.
The FA Cup is harder again than the league Cup.
So wake up. That trophy was an outlier for Ange had he stayed and for Spurs regardless.
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A tedious 1000 word screed on why Tottenham fans shouldn’t expect too much. How about a League Cup? Nah too difficult, just be happy with a reasonably high league finish. Are you this much of a loser in real life?

It’s like Daniel Levy’s wet dream has gained sentience and learned how to post on a message board.

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